ex Elly 197 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Kiwi Home Defence doubles proposal to Team New Zealand in bid to keep defence in Auckland The Kiwi Home Defence campaign has doubled its financial proposal to keep the next America's Cup in New Zealand. In a media statement, the Kiwi Home Defence confirmed it has sent a proposal to the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron and the trustees of the Team New Zealand Trust to increase its firm commitment to help fund a home defence in Auckland from $20 million to $40 million. The campaign, led by Kiwi rich-lister Mark Dunphy, believes that the additional commitment will be sufficient funding to stage a fully-funded and competitive defence of the America's Cup in Auckland. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-kiwi-home-defence-doubles-proposal-to-team-new-zealand-in-bid-to-keep-defence-in-auckland/RL4WTMJLHUGU64YZD5BVYHXQZA/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex Machina 365 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Love the AM when the sailing is on . The crap that has being going on this year is a new low though . Most Professional sport has lost relevance lately with the loss of freedoms , income , business etc . Not many people will take any notice of squillionaires and millionaires try to fund boat races and calling each other names Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 613 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 The posturing and legal maneuvering is the AC, this is what wealthy men do to each other when they want stuff. What happens on the water is the sideshow! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 397 Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 Likely one of the reasons the NYYC has pulled out, it is beneath them to be involved in the current sideshow of trying to flog it round the world for the highest dollar, and till recently one would have thought beneath the squaddie too. Where are the drunken "Loyal" people this time??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 197 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 The Squadron has just published a list of FAQs regarding the America's Cup: https://www.rnzys.org.nz/ac37-faq/ Q: Why can’t we just change boats and scale down the event to cut costs? A: This would need to be agreed with the Challenger of Record and covered in the Protocol. There is no appetite for such an agreement to be made and ETNZ is working on an AC37 defence in the AC75 given the success and worldwide acclaim given to the AC75 racing in the 36th America’s Cup in Auckland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 397 Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share Posted October 25, 2021 Under Pressure comes to mind...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,568 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, ex Elly said: The Squadron has just published a list of FAQs regarding the America's Cup: https://www.rnzys.org.nz/ac37-faq/ Q: Why can’t we just change boats and scale down the event to cut costs? A: we don't want to, we want the big one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 397 Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 The deal between Team Fracking and Team Dalton demands these boats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,568 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Who holds the Cup.? Grant Dalton or the squadron? Alternatively- no deal has ever been broken in the history of the AC🤣🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 397 Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 It sits in the Squadron, all else appears to have been given over to Team Dalton. Come on you Loyals where are you yelping and complaining now???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 197 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Former Team NZ director warns he will sue if Saudi Arabia named as next America's Cup host A former Team New Zealand director has told the syndicate he will try to use a legal precedent that stopped the All Blacks touring apartheid South Africa in 1985 if Saudi Arabia is named as the venue of the next America's Cup. This has sparked a legal warning from a high-profile member of the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron (RNZYS). Jim Farmer, QC, who was a director of Team New Zealand from 2003 to 2013 has written to both the RNZYS general committee members and Team New Zealand's directors, seeking a direct assurance that neither would seek to hold the next defence of the cup in Saudi Arabia. [...] In his letter to RNZYS commodore, Aaron Young, Farmer pointed to the famous case of Finnigan v New Zealand Rugby Football Union, in which two club rugby members took a case against the decision of the NZRFU council to accept an invitation for the All Blacks to tour South Africa in 1985. "The basis of the court's decisions was that, by sending a team to South Africa, the Rugby Union would be in breach of its own constitutional objective of fostering the sport of rugby, by virtue of the resulting harm to the reputation of the sport and to New Zealand rugby in particular," Farmer wrote. "The Squadron's objectives are similar and the conduct of the next Defence in its name in Saudi Arabia would cause similar harm." He later wrote to Team New Zealand's directors, and former chairman Sir Stephen Tindall, arguing that the selection of Jeddah would be "irresponsible and seriously damage New Zealand's international reputation as a country that respects human rights, including gender equity". [...] Another legal expert appears to be hinting at issues which could face the America's Cup if it were taken to the Middle East. On Sunday Hamish Ross, an America's Cup lawyer who Team New Zealand boss Grant Dalton accused of a "devious" plan to challenge the validity of Ineos Team UK as challenger of record for the next America's Cup, posted on Facebook on Sunday, about an "important, but little known" judgment of the New York Supreme Court in 2009 that he said could affect all future venue selections. Ross quoted a decision in light of Société Nautique de Genève's decision to select Ras Al Khaimah (part of the United Arab Emirates) as the venue for the 33rd America's Cup. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/former-team-nz-director-warns-he-will-sue-if-saudi-arabia-named-as-next-americas-cup-host/NVJRTV2BOPKQCWPM3JMXK3YJPU/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ed 143 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 So ETNZ have signed Nathan Outerridge, and Ashby is still on the team Pete and Blair haven’t renewed yet, changing of the guard perhaps? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank 157 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 22/10/2021 at 7:50 AM, Psyche said: The posturing and legal maneuvering is the AC, this is what wealthy men do to each other when they want stuff. What happens on the water is the sideshow! That's actually clever and funny maybe we are in the matrix and the real AM involves well funded teams who bring brilliant minds and technological prowess to winning the paralegal sh*t storm, mud slinging and posturing that is the actual AM. ! Quote from the Matrix Herald "At the moment the America’s Cup looks like a regatta for sailors and designers of immense talent and drive , distracting us from the real deal of winning the billionaires pissing contest . Why do we have to put up with this sailing crap between cycles, its over so fast . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 397 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 Saw a classic sign in Sailors Corner last night-Americas Cup supporters gear 80% off--- I would suggest that it sums up the feeling of most New Zealanders and a fair percentage of yachties after what Grant has done shopping it offshore. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 397 Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 Good to see Kiwi Home Defence writing to Squadron members stating the current situation without the spin from ETNZ. (no connection) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 640 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 On 26/10/2021 at 2:54 PM, waikiore said: It sits in the Squadron As custodial holders. Why not just kidnap the cup.Sure Dalts go overseas but the tin stays here?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,568 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I know, smack it a few times with a sledgehammer till it's unrecognizable. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 640 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, Black Panther said: I know, smack it a few times with a sledgehammer till it's unrecognizable. only has a silver content value of $15,000 14 kg at $1153 kg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 397 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 Good to see the open letter in the Herald yesterday, love to see a poll of members now, most I have spoken to with the exception of current commodore and next commodore are in favour of holding it here . "Dalts" is slowly looking more isolated with his view of whats best..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem 419 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 If someone actually organised enough of the voting Squadron members into forcing an outcome, that outcome could be quite interesting. Maybe AC38 could be held in Piedy's out the front of the squadron? 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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