Nathan1000 4 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 We have a swing mooring rated to 15m / 50ft. This is the max Auckland Transport allows. We like the look of a 52ft boat. From what I see renting a marina in the Auckland region requires approx $1200 pm. What the options for those of us with a limited supply of cash? Any ideas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 709 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I would get an appointment with the harbour master and plead your case, the only reason there is a limit on moorings is because a boat plowed through shoal bay a few years ago and I understand there is an ongoing legal wrangle over it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 There’s a 70 footer on a mooring in Herne Bay near Watchman’s Is. Been there for ages. Was recently on the market I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Are those ones by Watchman's Is on moorings or at anchor? I thought that was an 'anchoring' zone. I know the odd boat in Cox's bay are just anchored, instead of the whole mooring rigmarole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 409 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Do like this guy hang from anchor been doing it for years with Peter Blakes old ride Archangel C&C67ft off St Heliers beach. Had a bit of a drift in the recent blow but all soft mud and sand so happy days think of the coin they have saved in marina fees. http://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/c-67.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rigger 47 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Is the length defined as LoA, LWL, LPB, Register length, sparred length An example: 22ft boat could be 21ft LWL and have a sparred length of 30ft, an LoA of 23ft.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,672 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Plus davits. Marinas always want to carge me 1/2 metre for them. When i smile and offer to drop them on deck they say dont bother Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 709 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Fish said: Are those ones by Watchman's Is on moorings or at anchor? I thought that was an 'anchoring' zone. I know the odd boat in Cox's bay are just anchored, instead of the whole mooring rigmarole. The Oceans 71 at Watchmans has been on a mooring there for years, one day 5 years ago maybe it broke free (chafe?) and nearly drifted into the bridge but was saved just in time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nathan1000 4 Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 LOA unfortunately. I might nab that space at St Heliers while its free. $14000 a year times 10 years and boat is paid for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 409 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Nathan1000 said: LOA unfortunately. I might nab that space at St Heliers while its free. $14000 a year times 10 years and boat is paid for. At 50ft loa you will be up for $17000 a year at Westhaven Lidgard and Co measure to the millimetre. What would be your insurance status and ability to live aboard long term be swinging from anchor in the confines of the Auckland harbour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rangi1 51 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Unfortunately it’s hardly a surprise that it costs a lot to have a 52 foot boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 217 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 15 hours ago, Priscilla II said: At 50ft loa you will be up for $17000 a year at Westhaven Lidgard and Co measure to the millimetre. That is an old price list you have shown Priscilla. Prices went up in June (as they must every year), so the 10m has gone up from $651 to $728 in two years. An 11.8% increase. 😪 https://www.westhaven.co.nz/getattachment/westhaven/Berths/Rent-a-Berth/Rental_Rates_May21.pdf/?lang=en-NZ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Yes a 49-50 footer (LOA) will generally squeeze into a 15m berth. But that extra 2ft tips you over the edge into the 16-18m berth bracket (depending on marina). With a big cost increase. This was one of the reasons we limited our upgrade to a 50 footer rather than a 53-54 footer which was very tempting at the time. And this is the reason you will see some 52-53 footers cheaper (or at least sitting on the market for longer) than many 50 footers - it’s down to cost of berthing. By the time you get to 50ft you’ve got a big boat whatever the vintage. The extra 2-3ft is barely noticeable in terms of amenity but it very noticeable in terms of ongoing cost. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 409 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 4 hours ago, ex Elly said: That is an old price list you have shown Priscilla. Prices went up in June (as they must every year), so the 10m has gone up from $651 to $728 in two years. An 11.8% increase. 😪 https://www.westhaven.co.nz/getattachment/westhaven/Berths/Rent-a-Berth/Rental_Rates_May21.pdf/?lang=en-NZ You're correct there Elly, crikey a 10m is now $8742 a year when I quit the boat it was getting pretty rough cost wise now a whole bunch rougher. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 382 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 3x the price I pay in France... ouch. also, what's their definition of an offshore boat? registered off shore? or is it a visiting boat? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 155 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 5 hours ago, DrWatson said: 3x the price I pay in France... ouch. Our area on the Sweetwater Seas is admittedly one of the more affordable places to sail in North America, and our Club is also a volunteer non-profit, but still . . That amount is in USD per season, and includes power and water. A Dock 35 32 37 $1615.25 Of course our season is only six months long . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,672 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Spent one night at GH recently. 33% up on my last visit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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