Dual Control 2 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Looking to replace my 30lb CQR Plough anchor on my Beale 33'. Leaning towards a 35Lb Manson Supreme / 15Kg Super Sarca / Rocna 15Kg. Any suggestions appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,284 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 All three of those are great anchors! What shape will fit the bow best might be the way to choose.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
muzled 140 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 This guy has some good tests, skip to about 35 mins if you want to cut to the chase. I've got an excel, love it, held one day at Port Charles in 55+ with the boat doing 1kn back and forth side to side in the gusts. Dad always ranted that Port Charles had the worst holding around. The next morning was the only time I've had to tow the anchor out. But I'm sure if you ask 10 different people you'll get 15 different opinions which one is best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 678 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 secrets in chain weight and length, had a plough that wouldnt hold till we figured out chain was to light .I like 2 boats lengths Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 726 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 As IT says, they are all good. Over the years my impression of the anchor wars is that pretty much anything works if its big enough and far away enough from the boat. Also the kind of bottom you're trying to stick to is important, around Auckland I just use a Danforth with plenty of string as the anchor winch (me) likes a light load. At Barrier I use a big Spade which held well in an 80kt blow a few years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B00B00 317 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I have always used the Manson supreme with good success. Just brought a 25lb supreme for Rogue. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cantab 341 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Was set on a Manson Supreme until i discovered the Sarca Excell. Digs in as soon as you back down. I bought another one when I changed boats. Same size as Bealle got a No.3. Been through 2 gales already without moving, including swing around the clock. Had a few nasty episodes with the last one too and it never let me down. Including a 180 wind shift rising to 25 knots onshore. GPS said it must have broken out and grabbed again within 5m, I wasn't onboard. Doesn't need a massive scope, using 15m chain then rope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 410 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Sarca Excellent gets my tick of approval and by far easier to break out when retrieving than the Rocna style. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Young Entertainer 61 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 swapped from a plough to a sarca excel on the last boat and was so impressed it was the first thing that i purchased on the new boat, just dont back up too quickly as it stops the boat dead as soon as it starts to dig in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Get a sarca excel. They are like backing down into a brick wall. I make sure everyone is sitting down before I back down, due to the sudden stop when it sets. You sleep well knowing your anchor has set solid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 My anchor testing at Arkles Bay. Excel sets within its own length, maybe 1.5 x its length max. Plough would not set, dragged it all over the beach. When I say the excel is like backing down into a brick wall, I mean it sets immediately, the harder you pull it, the deeper it dives into the ground. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Kitty 283 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Plus one for the Sarca Excel, but as suggested see what fits the bow fairlead also. We changed from a Rocna to the Excel, as the roll bar was less than ideal. But forget the plough, no matter what chain you have! But any of the 3 you've shortlisted are great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bazzathemammoth 37 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 We love our manson supremes. Had one on Jetstream and one currently on pork chop. Digs into sand like crazy and resets quick as. We bought a new one last year (35lb with 20m chain) and when sussing options the boys at CRA reckoned the rocna wasn't as good as it used to be. Oh and you couldn't pay me enough to put a plow on my bow! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dual Control 2 Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 Thanks for the advice guys, it looks like a Sarca excel No 4 will let me sleep easy. I have 20 meters of chain and 40 meters rode. I’ve heard other boaties recommend the Sarca Excel so I’ll probably go with that. Now, anyone doing cheap deals? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 324 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On the strength of the video testing I saw from SV Panope, I purchased a Viking 10. It is same weight as my Excel, but is bigger footprint with a hoop (I will take a comparison photo later today). The Excel has never let me down, but I like to try new things, and if Cindy ever lets us loose this summer, I aim to test it out around the Gulf and possibly up North Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,688 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 This thread pushed me as far as looking at the tables to see what size excel for BP. Very confusing as I don't fit anywhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Kitty 283 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 50 minutes ago, Black Panther said: This thread pushed me as far as looking at the tables to see what size excel for BP. Very confusing as I don't fit anywhere. Not the first time you've heard that BP! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,688 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, Bad Kitty said: Not the first time you've heard that BP! Haha yes, I was a social misfit at high school, nothing has changed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,065 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 that video was great! The difference between rope and chain for hold was really obvious. I assume that holds true regardless of the anchor type? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 9/11/2021 at 10:06 AM, Dual Control said: Now, anyone doing cheap deals? They are only sold by Chains Ropes & Anchors (as far as I know) at least they are the whole-saler / importer. Best way to get a good deal is go in and ask very nicely. North shore based. (note phoning is less effective than going in). It may possibly help if you make disparaging comments about the owner (he is very unlikely to be actually working). Ask if its true the owner likes to wear fish-net tights and floral dresses. This has worked for me in the past Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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