backchat 2 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Anyone know the story behind this. We saw it Thursday Morning (20 Jan) and this afternoon (21st) from a distance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 671 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 15 hours ago, backchat said: Anyone know the story behind this. We saw it Thursday Morning (20 Jan) and this afternoon (21st) from a distance. This one. https://www.waihekegulfnews.co.nz/high-and-dry/ https://www.waihekegulfnews.co.nz/a-rocky-end-for-the-rosalie-clare/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
backchat 2 Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 That'll be it. I must have been past without noticing a couple of times. Very sad. Surprises me that it it's been there so long. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1paulg 20 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 There is a bit more to the story .... that article skims over the details. They knew a front was coming and bought it into Matiatia to anchor - a 70 " ketch amongst the moorings - anchored it (or had it anchored by someone according to the article) then went ashore and slept with friends that night leaving the boat unattended. First they knew it had dragged was the next morning when someone posted a picture on the Community FB page and they saw it. To my way of thinking not a great place to anchor a boat that size when there is limited space plus leave it unattended knowing there was a front coming. Meantime the locals on Waiheke have helped them strip the boat of most things of any value but they dont seem to have a plan to deal with the wreck despite being offered help which they didnt accept. The whole thing is starting to drag on and it will become an environmental issue if it isnt dealt with soon. Unfortunately it was uninsured so they probably dont have the resources to salvage it I am guessing 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khayyam 88 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 On a semi-related note, anyone know about Southern Progress (?), big old rusty thing seems to be (semi-)permanently anchored in the same spot at izzy bay? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi_jon 27 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 ^ The owner is currently in prison for rape. Google Craig Koning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khayyam 88 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Yeah I saw those stories. But looks like someone else is perhaps living on it out there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 671 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 5 hours ago, 1paulg said: First they knew it had dragged Only overnighted once,woke up not where I anchored in a northly blow,ended up mouth of the bay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi_jon 27 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 hours ago, khayyam said: Yeah I saw those stories. But looks like someone else is perhaps living on it out there? He has mates/crew living on it. There is usually a tender tied up to it. It anchored up in Issy just before he went to prison. Prior to that it spent months anchored off Karaka at the mouth of the Tamaki river. It was a pain as in certain winds it used to obscure the Barber's Pole. I get tempted to ring DoC and say I saw a rat jump off it and swim to Motutapu. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alibaba 80 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Actually, that is not a silly thought- there are bound to be rats on a boat of that size. At least DOC should take one of their rat-sensing dogs aboard. An experiment with a monitored rat on the Noises a few years ago demonstrated that they swam between islands, and it is only a very short distance to the shore. Especially important with all the regeneration of native bird projects on Motutapu at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 709 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Whenever I go past I wonder at cost of private ownership. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 217 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Coming into Izzy Bay after dark recently, I nearly ran into the Southern Progress. It has 3 dim lights at various heights and location visible from astern, no proper anchor light. Slightly confusing as I thought I was looking at 3 different size yachts further up the bay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khayyam 88 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 17 hours ago, kiwi_jon said: He has mates/crew living on it. There is usually a tender tied up to it. It anchored up in Issy just before he went to prison. Prior to that it spent months anchored off Karaka at the mouth of the Tamaki river. It was a pain as in certain winds it used to obscure the Barber's Pole. I get tempted to ring DoC and say I saw a rat jump off it and swim to Motutapu. I guess Izzy is where they went after getting moved on from Karaka? Seems like it must be on the wrong side of the harbourmaster's rules about permanent anchoring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkside 63 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, khayyam said: Seems like it must be on the wrong side of the harbourmaster's rules about permanent anchoring. Perhaps they drag too much to qualify as permanent? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem 507 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, khayyam said: Seems like it must be on the wrong side of the harbourmaster's rules about permanent anchoring. It's outside the harbour limits. Just like St Helliers which is semi-permanently Peter Blakes old Schooner Archangels anchorage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin McCready 83 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Do you have a chart of the Harbour Master's limits? I imagine some other authority could move them on outside the limits? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 709 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 They have to move from Izzy to pump out, unless they have airheads Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem 507 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 45 minutes ago, Kevin McCready said: Do you have a chart of the Harbour Master's limits? I imagine some other authority could move them on outside the limits? Sorry, after review of the latest law/maps, I am wrong. The law states: The owner or person in charge of a vessel must obtain prior approval of the Harbourmaster to anchor the vessel overnight in the same bay or within one nautical mile of the previous overnight anchorage for longer than 14 days in a 28 day period It applies to the entire Auckland region. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1paulg 20 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 7:54 PM, CarpeDiem said: Sorry, after review of the latest law/maps, I am wrong. The law states: The owner or person in charge of a vessel must obtain prior approval of the Harbourmaster to anchor the vessel overnight in the same bay or within one nautical mile of the previous overnight anchorage for longer than 14 days in a 28 day period It applies to the entire Auckland region. Wonder how Archangel gets away with it at St Heliers ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem 507 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, 1paulg said: Wonder how Archangel gets away with it at St Heliers ? Yeah, I wondered exactly the same. They either (a) have the necessary permission; or (b) the bylaw just isn't enforced. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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