aardvarkash10 1,065 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 7:14 AM, Bradz said: Not quite the case. I think you will find that the unionised NZ Bus drivers (Auckland) want the new rate and retain all of the original terms associated with previous agreements. I for one can't remember the last time I was paid double time to work on the weekend, or at night, definiately have never been paid $60/h to do so. It's impossible to comment on your situation since we don't know any detail. As an HR person in a 24/7 365 business, I can tell you the overtime and penal rates are a straight market exercise. It's hard to get people to work those hours or on public holidays, so you pay more to incentivise it. No rocket science here, just supply and demand. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Natasha7899 0 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 On 15/07/2023 at 7:08 AM, aardvarkash10 said: It's impossible to comment on your situation since we don't know any detail. As an HR person in a 24/7 365 business, I can tell you the overtime and penal rates are a straight market exercise. It's hard to get people to work those hours or on public holidays, so you pay more to incentivise it. No rocket science here, just supply and demand. Completely concur. Overtime and penalty rates in a 24-hour sector reflect the fundamentals of supply and demand. In order to maintain a motivated workforce, the increased pay makes up for the demanding hours and vacations. The simple dynamics of the market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 679 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 www.maritimenz.govt.nz/public/news/2023/november/prosecution-follows-april-collision-between-power-boat-and-ferry-near-russell/ Prosecution follows April collision between power boat and ferry near Russell 30 November 2023 Following a collision between a twin-engine recreational power boat and the ferry, Waitere, in Russell earlier this year, Maritime NZ has charged the power boat’s skipper. The collision occurred at about midday on 13 April 2023, when Waitere (also known as the Blue Ferry ) was travelling from Russell to Paihia. Maritime NZ’s Deputy Chief Executive Regulatory Operations, Deb Despard, says Maritime NZ personnel undertook a thorough investigation in response to this incident. "Investigators carried out interviews, examined the scene, reviewed documents and gathered other relevant evidence connected to the incident," she says. The ferry’s skipper was severely injured, some of the passengers suffered lesser injuries and the ferry was badly damaged. It sunk a few hours after the collision. There was some damage to the power boat, but no one on board it at the time was injured. Ms Despard says one charge has been filed in the Auckland District Court against the skipper of the power boat. The charge has been filed under section 65 of the Maritime Transport Act 1994. As the matter is now before the Court, Maritime NZ cannot make further comment. Editors’ notes: Section 65 of the Maritime Transport Act makes it an offence to operate a vessel in a manner causing unnecessary danger or risk to any other person or property. Maximum penalties the Court can impose against an individual are a fine of up to $10,000 or a prison term of up to one year. Maritime NZ will not be releasing documents while the matter is before the Court. Some documents might be available from the Court on application in accordance with the District Court (Access to Court Documents) Rules 2017. Follow us News feed Call the MNZ media line +64 4 499 7318 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank 157 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 On 8/07/2023 at 9:02 PM, CarpeDiem said: No there isn't. The evidence clearly shows that the public don't want there tax money spent on witch hunts. The public expect that companies follow the law. The public expects that companies have plans and systems in place. In these cases these companies did not consult with GNS and did not provide adaquate warning to their customers of the risks. We don't need to spend millions checking companies are doing the right thing when we're already spending millions dealing with the incidents. What we need is for businesses to start following the exceptionally clear, we'll documented law and stop cutting corners so that the incidents stop. I don't want my tax money spent making sure a company has the appropriate safety measures in place. I want the company directors to be spending their own money, paying the same outfit that Worksafe would pay, to ensure that they are compliant. That's the outcome I would like to see. Mmmmm, I can relate to the sentiments but I cant see human nature changing anytime soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 726 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Sentencing next week https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime/powerboat-skipper-james-thomson-to-be-fined-for-bay-of-islands-crash-that-destroyed-historic-ferry-broke-captains-neck/XWUMZBCGQRAV7I7NTZYCLBEQ7U/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 679 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 9 hours ago, Psyche said: Sentencing next week https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime/powerboat-skipper-james-thomson-to-be-fined-for-bay-of-islands-crash-that-destroyed-historic-ferry-broke-captains-neck/XWUMZBCGQRAV7I7NTZYCLBEQ7U/ One would presume if insured.His 3rd party would cover costs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 444 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 His defence lawyer says he was an experienced skipper and taking the boat for repair ? , he says he was playing with the chart plotter , the ferry passengers say he was turned around talking to the child on board all whilst heading outwards close in to the island off Russell at planing speed , it appears that the presiding Judge did not pick up on the contradictions . 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,691 Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 Probably texting his girlfriend 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 324 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Why was he doing 20 knots? Twenty-bloody-knots? The bloody idiot. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,691 Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 2 hours ago, Zozza said: Why was he doing 20 knots? Twenty-bloody-knots? The bloody idiot. Half throttle? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dagwood 69 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 "The powerboat was travelling at an estimated 20.5 knots en route to Rawhiti Point around midday when an engine alarm sounded from the display unit next to the helm as the ship passed Toretore Island. Thomson was looking down at the display unit, scrolling through a list to identify the fault, for an estimated 90 seconds when he hit the ferry." If an engine alarm goes off, isn't it a normal instant reaction for virtually any skipper (let alone an experienced one) to almost instantly reduce power down to idle and select neutral while you try to figure out potential causes and quickly consider if you need to shut it down? The explanation seems very odd to me. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
motorb 35 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 On 19/06/2024 at 6:54 PM, Dagwood said: If an engine alarm goes off, isn't it a normal instant reaction for virtually any skipper (let alone an experienced one) it would seem that dangerous incompetence is a legal defence strategy these days Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,065 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 $131k reparations. https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350329490/boat-skipper-ordered-pay-131k-after-crashing-russells-blue-ferry 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rats 44 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 21 minutes ago, aardvarkash10 said: $131k reparations. https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350329490/boat-skipper-ordered-pay-131k-after-crashing-russells-blue-ferry Hopefully that sends a message to the muppets out there driving boats like they would their cars. Proper look out or pay big bucks. Crying shame the ferry skipper's a paraplegic requiring care 24/7 and ending a nice little retirement gig plus the ferry boat went to the bottom. When you consider the costs of just those two factors seems like Onopotos skipper got of pretty light. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 324 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 I heard some twat on the Radio yesterday morning (RNZ) being interviewed, saying that licensing boat owners for competency on the water is an absolute must. He completely missed the point that this idiot in Pahia was looking down scrolling his phone going at twenty f**king knots, trying to figure out how to fix something. Just like driving, if you are looking at your phone then you are not fully paying attention, and going at twenty knots with your head down engrossed in your bloody phone is a recipe for disaster. But hey, if the idiot was licensed then that would have solved everything. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K4309 353 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 2 hours ago, Zozza said: I heard some twat on the Radio yesterday morning (RNZ) being interviewed, saying that licensing boat owners for competency on the water is an absolute must. He completely missed the point that this idiot in Pahia was looking down scrolling his phone going at twenty f**king knots, trying to figure out how to fix something. Just like driving, if you are looking at your phone then you are not fully paying attention, and going at twenty knots with your head down engrossed in your bloody phone is a recipe for disaster. But hey, if the idiot was licensed then that would have solved everything. Yet I suspect a $132,000 fine might make some people think about putting it in neutral before scrolling through the MFD to find a fault alarm. At the end of the day, it was that one indecision to not throttle back that led to the ferry skipper being paralyised. Note I understood he was flicking through screens on the MFD rather than his phone, but the analogy of drivers on their phone is exactly the same. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,065 Posted Thursday at 04:01 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:01 AM The findings https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/530326/both-skippers-failed-to-keep-proper-watch-leading-to-catastrophic-ferry-collision-report?fbclid=IwY2xjawF0L6JleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHb0LExSBfa9-OXodMeZhcznyGRfj_Blq1HkXIY3CTatSOp5wAIP7noWFkA_aem_Vw_1aFy79bJ4RlV-0XOJrw&sfnsn=mo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dagwood 69 Posted Thursday at 07:22 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:22 PM Here if you want the full version 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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