Cheap Transport 75 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Specialist hydrographics ship aground...oh the irony😅 https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/royal-new-zealand-navy-vessel-hmnzs-manawanui-runs-aground-near-samoa/YLJL2634NVDJTD6YOQPJDBOMFU/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 683 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 called on little toot to help. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,073 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 "Maritime component commander Commodore Shane Arndell said the grounding occurred while conducting a reef survey." I'm gonna use that excuse in future. Just like I use "tired and emotional". 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 530 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Grounding? The bloody thing is on its side and on fire with no way of putting it out. is "grounding" the new phrase for "that'll buff out" not going to look good on their cv's 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BNG 54 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Always turn the clothes dryer off when you abandon ship... 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,073 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 The environment will be fine, the front is still on. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,073 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 In other news, Dunedin Hospital is definitely cancelled. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
funlovincriminal 197 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 With NZ's current financial issues, it must work out cheaper to send our Navy vessels to Samoa for a complete Reefhit 🤔 9 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cheap Transport 75 Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 I see what you did there FLC 🤣 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 414 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 “Missions that the ship enables include coastal and harbour survey, underwater explosive disposal, underwater search and recovery, and limited mine countermeasures,” the NZDF said. The ship supported Navy operations “across the maritime domain”. “The ship can survey harbours and approaches prior to larger support ships landing support equipment and personnel, whether for combat or disaster relief. It can support the ongoing mission to eradicate explosive remnants of war in the South Pacific. “And it can undertake salvage operations to find and recover submerged objects.”😀 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K4309 371 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 4 minutes ago, Priscilla II said: “Missions that the ship enables include coastal and harbour survey, underwater explosive disposal, underwater search and recovery, and limited mine countermeasures,” the NZDF said. The ship supported Navy operations “across the maritime domain”. “The ship can survey harbours and approaches prior to larger support ships landing support equipment and personnel, whether for combat or disaster relief. It can support the ongoing mission to eradicate explosive remnants of war in the South Pacific. “And it can undertake salvage operations to find and recover submerged objects.”😀 Think you need to go through your post and change the present tense for the past tense 'Can' should now be 'Could' or 'Did' 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 414 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 19 minutes ago, K4309 said: Think you need to go through your post and change the present tense for the past tense 'Can' should now be 'Could' or 'Did' Well it most certainly “ found a submerged object”so that part of the mission was a success. I note that the crew muster was 75 but the bunk capacity was 66 so some crew must have been on watch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 755 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Judith Collins is being interviewed about this; [Interviewer:] This ship that was involved in the incident off Samoa this week… [Judith Collins:] Yeah, the one that crashed into the reef? [Interviewer:] Yeah [Judith Collins:] That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point. [Interviewer:] Well, how is it untypical? [Judith Collins:] Well, there are a lot of these survey ships going around the world all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen … I just don’t want people thinking that survey vessels aren’t safe. [Interviewer:] Was this survey ship safe? [Judith Collins:] Well I was thinking more about the other ones… [Interviewer:] The ones that are safe,,, [Judith Collins:] Yeah,,, the ones that didn't crash into the reef [Interviewer:] Well, if this wasn’t safe, why did it crash into the reef? [Judith Collins:] Well, I’m not saying it wasn’t safe, it’s just perhaps not quite as safe as some of the other ones. [Interviewer:] Why? [Judith Collins:] Well, some of them are operated so they dont crash into reefs. [Interviewer:] Wasn’t this operated so they dont crash into reefs. [Judith Collins:] Well, obviously not. [Interviewer:] “How do you know?” [Judith Collins:] Well, ‘cause it crashed in the reef and tons of crude oil spilled into the sea, caught fire. It’s a bit of a give-away.” I would just like to make the point that that is not normal. [Interviewer:] Well, what sort of standards are these naval survey vessels built to? [Judith Collins:] Oh, very rigorous … maritime engineering standards. [Interviewer:] What sort of things? [Judith Collins:] Well they are not supposed to crash into reefs, for a start. [Interviewer:] And what other things? [Judith Collins:] Well, there are … regulations governing the materials they can be made of [Interviewer:] What materials? [Judith Collins:] Well, Cardboard’s out [Interviewer:] And? [Judith Collins:] …No cardboard derivatives… [Interviewer:] Like paper? [Judith Collins:]. … No paper, no string, no cellotape. … [Interviewer:] Rubber? [Judith Collins:] No, rubber’s out .. Um, They’ve got to have a steering wheel. There’s a minimum crew requirement.” [Interviewer:] What’s the minimum crew? [Judith Collins:] Oh,… one, I suppose. [Interviewer:] So, the allegations that they ignore the rules of seamanship and to hell with the consequences, I mean that’s ludicrous… [Judith Collins:] Ludicrous, absolutely ludicrous. These are very, very strong vessels [Interviewer:] So what happened in this case? [Judith Collins:] Well, it crashed into the reef in this case by all means, but that’s very unusual. [Interviewer:] But Minister Collins, why did it crash into a reef? [Judith Collins:] Well, a wave hit it. [Interviewer:] A wave hit it? [Judith Collins:] A wave hit the ship. [Interviewer:] Is that unusual? [Judith Collins:] Oh, yeah… At sea? …Chance in a million. [Interviewer:] So what do you do to protect the environment in cases like this? [Judith Collins:] Well, the ship will be towed outside the environment. [Interviewer:] Into another environment…. [Judith Collins:] No, no, no. it will be towed beyond the environment, it’s not in the environment [Interviewer:] Yeah, but from one environment to another environment. [Judith Collins:] No, beyond the environment, it wont be in an environment. It will be towed beyond the environment. [Interviewer:] Well, what’s out there? [Judith Collins:] Nothing’s out there… [Interviewer:] Well there must be something out there [Judith Collins:] There is nothing out there… all there is …. is sea …and birds ….and fish [Interviewer:] And? [Judith Collins:] And tons of crude oil [Interviewer:] And what else? [Judith Collins:] And a fire [Interviewer:] And anything else? [Judith Collins:] And the part of the ship that that didnt crash into the reef, but there’s nothing else out there. [Interviewer:] Minister Collins thanks for joining us. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K4309 371 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 5 minutes ago, Priscilla II said: Well it most certainly “ found a submerged object”so that part of the mission was a success. I note that the crew muster was 75 but the bunk capacity was 66 so some crew must have been on watch. not sure if percussion hydrography was in the design spec's... They stated they 'evacuated 75 crew and passengers'. Didn't realise NZ defense assets took passengers. Saturday night, more people onboard than bunks, carrying passengers, yet they say they were working. Several things don't add up. Core crew is 30 something. Not 75. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,719 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 I normally enjoy stories about how inadequate our military is, but this is a bit sad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,073 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 4 hours ago, funlovincriminal said: With NZ's current financial issues, it must work out cheaper to send our Navy vessels to Samoa for a complete Reefhit 🤔 *Boom, tissssch* "He's here all week folks, tell your friends, and try the fish it's excellent..." 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 683 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Yep first command. https://www.nzdf.mil.nz/media-centre/news/yorkshire-woman-takes-command-of-royal-new-zealand-navy-ship/ trained as a teacher and once hoped to open her own restaurant. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,073 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 She may get the opportunity. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eruptn 103 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 6 hours ago, K4309 said: not sure if percussion hydrography was in the design spec's... They stated they 'evacuated 75 crew and passengers'. Didn't realise NZ defense assets took passengers. Saturday night, more people onboard than bunks, carrying passengers, yet they say they were working. Several things don't add up. Core crew is 30 something. Not 75. We had 3 staff on board, they stopped at Raoul to service equipment enroute. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vivaldi 55 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 On another navy matter I see that the Captain of the Canterbury has been stood down pending an investigation. Be interesting to see what that is about as well. https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350432846/commanding-officer-hmnzs-canterbury-work-investigation-under-way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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