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Black Panther 1,818 Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 https://youtu.be/Mpkk08ShEik?si=MPSLs7AdLm3RX2Kc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 276 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Very worrying. Marinas are no longer community facilities, just a way to generate increasing profits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MartinRF 79 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Not there yet in Sweden. Mostly, I think, because many marinas are either club run or run by the local government. There are commercial marinas and the trend towards 'streamlining business' instead of serving customers is glaringly obvious. /Martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,818 Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 Try to keep it that way, 9nce commercial interests predominate it's all downhill 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank 223 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Marina Type ExamplesTypical Occupation Model Private Commercial Bayswater Pine Harbour, Hobsonville Private berth ownership or commercial rental.Charitable Trust Half Moon Bay, Orakei Berth licenses held by individuals; profits reinvested.Auckland Council Westhaven, Viaduct, Silo Moving toward 100% rental models as historical licenses expire (e.g., Westhaven in September 2026) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank 223 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 If a new Marina was built today would they even bother with 9.5 or 10.5 M berths ? probably the smallest would be 12 or 12.5 M, sometimes I think the classic 8.8 metre Gulf Cruiser Racer of the 1980's is now akin to a Bavaria 38 or similar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,347 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Not even 12m I reckon, >13 only... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khayyam 114 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Orakei only has a fairly small number of 12m? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,170 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 meanwhile, pole moorings are in demand. Brooklands (Clevedon) recently expanded, Weiti has a waiting list, Tamaki River similar. An economical compromise on security and ease of access. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
motorb 56 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 On 10/02/2026 at 5:37 PM, aardvarkash10 said: meanwhile, pole moorings are in demand. Brooklands (Clevedon) recently expanded, Weiti has a waiting list, Tamaki River similar. An economical compromise on security and ease of access. Plenty of poles available in Westhaven.... ... but unofficially not taking bookings so they can use "lack of demand" to justify redevelopment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 904 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Whats missing in the conversation about Auckland marinas is the limited choices. For larger new boats 14-16m and above berth fees are not a deal breaker but for older boats especially 12m and under that cost to park annually is often up to half the boats value or worse. What the alternative- moorings and as we all know all mooring fields have downsides either from weather, waves to access, parking and security. A friends son has a Piedy at Milford and granted its pretty limited re tides but they upgraded it recently and with a finger its $30 a week or under $5 a day. What would a community facility like Westhaven charge for the same- many times I imagine. The bigger picture is that yachting for middle NZ is getting the squeeze from so many directions; from marinas who view us as having limited or no alternatives, from agencies that want you to clean your hull but remove facilities etc etc and a general public who not unfairly at times view yachties as privileged and entitled. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khayyam 114 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Milford is looking a lot tidier these days, but still tidal access and depth limited. And tricky to impossible in a big NE. But I agree that mooring costs are prohibitive for smaller (cheaper) boats, it doesn't make a lot of sense to have a $20k boat that costs $10k/year to keep in the marina. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,170 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Undoubtedly, if you are a Harbour racer you are stuck with being in one of three facilities. We are not. Our Clevedon location has us about 2 hours sailing from the bottom end, on secure weather-protected poles in a reasonably maintained but not luxury facility. Think DOC camping ground vs Top10 holiday park. I have no idea what we pay, I think it's about $250 a month, so 3k a year. Much more than a swing mooring but orders of magnitude safer. Much less than a marina, but we do have to take the dinghy 50m from the jetty to the boat. Choose your compromise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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