idlerboat 116 Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Wiped my tears, Cleaned the boat up , big time, installed a fridge lid hold up...(now why didnt I do that three years ago)....and started some dangerous dreams... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Installed the dodger I've been worrying about all winter. Trying to make it look old school cause its that type of yacht though may be pretty modern looking when the glass goes on cause its going on in the same style as a car wind screen. That is simply glued to the outer surface and completely covering the timber. Glazier tints the glass where the mullions are. Took a while to come up with this design! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
col j 0 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 took line and 3rd handicap overall in the winter series. went for a bare headed sail then motored back from bean rock .... missed prizegiving. fml Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 progressing! Can get 360 watts of solar panels on there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grinna 2 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 BBay, we've got a similar curved shape to our bimini and it looks to be a similar size though its a sunbrella covering on stainless tube. I thought it'd be an ideal place for mounting solar panels, but when I mention that to anyone they all suck air thru their teeth, scratch their chins and say "I dunno, what about the shading from the boom?". Do you think shading is going to be much of an issue for you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John B 109 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 progressing! Can get 360 watts of solar panels on there. Thats an interesting approach to a hard dodger bbay. It reminds a bit of the general style that Tad Roberts uses on his boats. He's a PNW naval architect with some terrific designs across a broad spectrum of power through to yachts. He seems to be able to keep a very traditional look within modern functional requirements, especially for the area that he's in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Yes I think shade is an issue Grinna. If I'm desparato for the stuff I'll just have to haul the boom across out of the way. It really suits these thin flexible panels which can be got from trademe at about 800 x 500 giving 120 watts. At a pinch I may even get 4 of these on there and they ought to look ok as well. To be able to get cat 1 in the future I will have to use toughened glass which is simply glued with polyurethane glue, like sikaflex, and the glass has ceramic coating to shade the glue from uv light. Thanks John, yes I love the look! Really growing on me and it is old school but when the glass goes around should look pretty tidy. Hope! The glass should give it a fair amount of bracing also. Its very practical in that the roof area is large as is the interior so should be a boon! Oh yes the glass being vertical won't, hope , get as dirty as a laid back style. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John B 109 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 To be able to get cat 1 in the future I will have to use toughened glass which is simply glued with polyurethane glue, like sikaflex, and the glass has ceramic coating to shade the glue from uv light. Is that right though?( I hope not) plenty of soft dodgers get through cat 1 because the structural and watertightness of the boat is dependent on the existing hatch and bulkhead etc. Most hard dodger windows won't meet the 2 square feet threshold anyway. I'm planning on a hard dodger myself and intend to use acrylic at this stage because its more scratch resistant than polycarbonate.I'll just beef it up, If a wave does bust through.. tough luck, all the hatch structure is still there. Oh.. are you opening all that out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Thats what the glazier told me. May indeed be selling me upwards! No won't be changing the hatch, and the dodger is sacraficial, not through bolted just screwed and glued. Here's a view of the top, the handholds are great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,286 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 bb, what you have been told is wrong. the window size etc does not effect cat 1, provided that it does not contribute to watertight integrity. so provided the hard dodger is sacrificial, as you said, you are fine... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John B 109 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 A link to Tad Roberts site bbay, might be of interest. http://www.tadroberts.ca/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Should be ok IT, the cabin top is 40mm thick totara with ply overlay. Plain glass should do the trick then. She's mostly used for coastal cruising so I thought I could risk having some overhangs on the top. Trying for as much area up there as I can get. It is a lot like Tad Robert's beautiful designs, thanks John. Interesting to see when the glass goes on as should be pretty neat without any timber on the outer side. Easy to maintain! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Whats your opinion on tinted glass for the above dodger? I wonder if tinted might be a bit unsafe at night. Tinted would look good though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wild violet 38 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 my hard dodger is lightly tinted perspex it is awesome like looking through sunglasses Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiteroa 8 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Took the dodgy seagull boat out for her maiden burn. Mental note: Take more duct tape next time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Love it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
S+S24 0 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Took the dodgy seagull boat out for her maiden burn. Mental note: Take more duct tape next time. Well done Would the great vessel benefit with a cabin like fairing to reduce windage? Rob James and Ron Holland were hot on that in the early 80's with their Tri's. Also Sinclair of the failed electric car found fairings made a difference at the lower speeds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiteroa 8 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Not a hell of a lot of science went into this fine vessel, so we did the bare minimum to make her float and be able to carry an engine. Didn't know how she would float or if her stability would be high enough. So before getting too carried away we thought she should have a quick test. That's why she looks a bit simple! So much fun burning around in such a rickety dinghy though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atom Ant 0 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Awesome. Love the old Seagulls. Spent hours bombing around in an old ply dinghy with a 2 1/2 HP gull when I was a young 'un. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 *May* have watched some dodgy telly this morning. Then out to boat to fix battery tray to hull in new location. Nothing like getting down and dirty with the epoxy to refocus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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