banaari 27 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Anybody out there done both the RYA Day Skipper and Coastal *theory* courses? Am trying to ascertain if a reasonably motivated individual could, with a bit of application, skip the Day Skipper and just do the Coastal. i.e. is there much duplication between the two; would I miss something valuable? Hehehe: Have been directed into the UK for a 3-day conference in May. In Brighton. So to salvage something worthwhile out of 54 hours in cattle class, have booked myself on a Day Skipper practical course... should constitute a very different experience Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini Babe 0 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Difficult one. I did both with Centaur Sailing in the UK (cheapest distance learning course I could find), and was keen to by-pass the DS and go straight to the CS/YM theory. They wouldn't let me, and I ended up doing one course after the other (which obviously costs twice as much as just doing one. ) I was extremely disappointed to find that the CS/YM course notes were IDENTICAL to the DS course notes, save for the addition of the slightly more complex stuff that builds on the DS stuff. That said, it was certainly easier to learn the basics first, and then build on them later with the more complex stuff. But with hindsight, I don't think it unreasonable that you could dive straight into the CS/YM course. Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 I did both with Centaur Sailing in the UK Was that with your good self present in the UK at the time? They now apparently won't send course materials out of the UK... Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini Babe 0 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Nope, I was in NZ, but I got the course notes etc mailed to family in the UK and then forwarded on to me, and Centaur were happy with that. Link to post Share on other sites
Panic Knot 6 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Banaari, I'm based in the Uk and happy to forward them on to you from Centaur if you want to do that. I've just started an online version with NavAtHome.com. They seem to ship globally (chart pack etc). Materials seem pretty good and DS is relatively straight-forward, but just wanted to ease into it rather than try and rush. Still learning a few things here and there though. Cheers Will Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 You sir are a gentleman But it's all good, I contacted Centaur overnight and they're perfectly OK with NZ. Considerable difference in price between "supported" and "unsupported" course; it's on the supported version you must have done DS first. Fair 'nuff, they expect to be answering CS/YM questions not the basic stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini Babe 0 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I did unsupported and was perfectly OK, aside from being a little confused at times by some apparent mistakes in the mark-yourself questions... You probably already know this, but you can also start on unsupported and upgrade to supported if you want. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I should think anyone with 1/2 a clue could jump straight past Dayskipper to coastal. The Coastal and Ocean aren't anything like they used to be so aren't that tricky really. It wasn't that long ago a OYM meant seven 3 hour exams plus a couple of trips out on boats, 2 at night, plus Morse blocks and even semaphore. Knot a chart plotter in site and GPS was only taught as a sideline tool. The most complex machine we were allowed to use was a simple calculator..... or in my case one of those pens with 4 different colour options Link to post Share on other sites
PaulR 3 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 or in my case one of those pens with 4 different colour options Little wonder then you had to rely upon getting the second question of "date" right as you must of failed on the first and hardest question . . . . Kname: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Hi Baanari, Yes you will comfortably be able to skip Day Skipper theory and effectively complete Coastal. I went straight to Coastal, in the UK. I had done NZ Boatmaster, but I feel that is very rudimentary, if you have crashed a boat at least once, you won't learn much from Day Skipper. If you already own your boat, know port from starboard, can get fromA to B without an AA street map and have more than one life jacket onboard, you will be fine. PS, I did get a question wrong. Under what circumstances must sail give way to power? I sighted the "might is right" rule, sail must give way to power if the power vessel is over 500t. Apparently this was wrong, I said I don't care, I'm still getting out of the way... In reality I think this is an Auckland Harbour by law, not part of the col regs. Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 All sorted, thanks everybody for the advice. Decided I fall into the "half a clue" camp and have ordered the unsupported CS/YMOff course. Link to post Share on other sites
Pugwash 0 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Just been looking at the http://www.navathome.com website. Looks pretty good although I'm no expert. I enquired about them sending stuff overseas and they said it was not a problem. They also gave me a link to the Southern Hemisphere site http://www.navathome.com.au/ which looks exactly the same, although I suppose they would you use charts etc. more relevant to this half of the globe. Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini Babe 0 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 And don't forget the weather... Systems spin opposite ways in the S. hem. Something that still takes me a while to work out as I did all the N. hem Met stuff! Link to post Share on other sites
Pugwash 0 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Maybe would be a good idea to have a look at the aussie navathome site. Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted February 9, 2013 Author Share Posted February 9, 2013 Maybe would be a good idea to have a look at the aussie navathome site. I did... they want ~NZ$660 for the course, which for an independent learner like myself who doesn't want the phone/email backup, is simply extortionate. Link to post Share on other sites
Pugwash 0 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 how does that compare with other providers? Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 how does that compare with other providers? Hard to say, because it seems to be a unique product they're offering. The others are more traditional distance learning. As an example though Centaur want £220 for a fully supported course, i.e. ~NZ$415. Exchange rate has a bit to do with, admittedly. Nor is that the full story; with the Centaur courses there's about £20 worth of extras you have to acquire yourself, including the RYA training almanac. Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 While I think about it: Big thanks to BiminiBabe for mentioning Centaur - think has probably saved me several hundred dollars :) I will run you to earth at Opua, bearing rum... Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 One year on: Sat and passed the CSkipper/YMOffshore theory yesterday. Bloody nerve-wracking, especially the secondary-port stuff, UK-style... too many steps to potentially bugger up. Shouldn't have taken anything like a full year but I didn't realise just what work was going to do to me. Big props and a shameless plug for Centaur Sailing's correspondence course. Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Congratulations Banaari Link to post Share on other sites
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