MarkMT 68 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Thanks for that. Link to post Share on other sites
smithy09 50 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 ... Agreed a R40 running costs is alot more than a y11... Why is that? If you go from a Y11 or a 1050 and jump on a Ross 40, it is soon apparent that everything is quite a lot bigger. Sails, mast, length, ropes, winches, everything and it all costs a bit more. You wouldn't think that 4 or 5 feet could make that much difference but it does! Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrahl 6 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 L4... there's a y11 buried in a rubbish tip? ?? You know what they say. .. one man's rubbish is another man's treasure. ... more info lol. Agreed a R40 running costs is alot more than a y11. It's not so much the noise but the c location of the engine that's the problem. It's the chop quiet a bit quicker than fineline? The Y11 was Big Ruby.. And I think the remains were cut up with a chainsaw before being buried so probably not worth digging up! Why was it the fastest? It certainly wasn't when I raced against it! Link to post Share on other sites
sow1ld 2 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Chopped up!??! Feel like there's a story here Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 It was a story alright. It was lost in 2000 when a storm broke up the Littleton Marina. Innocent Man a Ross 35 is properly buried next to it. I pretty sure the owners at the time replaced Big Ruby with another Young 11. Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrahl 6 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 They brought Forever Young with the insurance money. I heard Innocent Man was being repaired somewhere but never seen or heard of it since then. A lot of the boats were brought by tender, repaired and sailing again. Link to post Share on other sites
Chill Pill 1 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 So Squid, why the sudden interest in Y11's and E1050's? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 On behalf of someone else, hopefully a story to come soon. Link to post Share on other sites
wal 27 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Why was it the fastest? It certainly wasn't when I raced against it! That's cos we werent there Link to post Share on other sites
markm 30 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 race track kind of say's that pork chop hasn't been sailed very well at all if smakme is correct. RT will be including Pork Chop's twilight racing where it's been my impression that they're perhaps not quite as intense about the racing as some. Looking at her by series and just using the winter series races probably better reflects her potential. Think the newish keel has done good things for her. Think I'd adopt the posture of a dedicated fence sitter if they were racing with equivalent ability crews. As FnG noted, you could do a whole heap worse than either of them. Link to post Share on other sites
col j 0 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 fineline is too tall to be a young 11. according to the class president the rule is force eleven or smaller. think fineline has about 600-700 taller rig than force and a deeper keel. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 that's funny, ive seen force with a standard main on, the rigs have go to be close to the same oversize Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Why was it the fastest? It certainly wasn't when I raced against it! That's cos we werent there never a truer word spoken Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 fineline is too tall to be a young 11. according to the class president the rule is force eleven or smaller. think fineline has about 600-700 taller rig than force and a deeper keel. schein slime (fineline) is a class compliant Y11 hull, cedar epoxy from memory, great memories of chainsaw smoke billowing from the companionway as phollings lightened and jettisoned unwanted built in crap Link to post Share on other sites
col j 0 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 maybe its only 200 taller. looks bloody tall with no jumper struts though. Link to post Share on other sites
floatsome 0 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Fastest I ever saw big ruby going, was backwards I am sure someone has a photo.... Fond memories of that chainsaw, I am sure it was during the inter-club relay? Link to post Share on other sites
That Guy 0 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 They brought Forever Young with the insurance money. I heard Innocent Man was being repaired somewhere but never seen or heard of it since then. A lot of the boats were brought by tender, repaired and sailing again. Innocent man is sitting on a mooring in momarangi, its got no rig and is used as a launch I think Link to post Share on other sites
B00B00 310 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 fineline is too tall to be a young 11. according to the class president the rule is force eleven or smaller. think fineline has about 600-700 taller rig than force and a deeper keel. I think you are right. From what I remember Fineline was 15m on the main luff and Force 11 was around 14.2 or 14.5m Standard Y11 is 13.4m. Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 511 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Sadly not many Y11's have renewed PHRF yet but the three that have all have J's in the low 13's http://phrf.yachtingnz.org.nz/PHRFDetails.aspx?SailNumber=K5484 http://phrf.yachtingnz.org.nz/PHRFDetails.aspx?SailNumber=K6325 http://phrf.yachtingnz.org.nz/PHRFDetails.aspx?SailNumber=K8657 Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 511 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Ha! you can get the old ones too if you're sneaky Force Eleven 14.1m http://phrf.yachtingnz.org.nz/PHRFDetails.aspx?SailNumber=K156 Fineline 15.0m http://phrf.yachtingnz.org.nz/PHRFDetails.aspx?SailNumber=K5729 And yes Fineline's draft is 2.6 against Force's 2.4 and class looking to be around 2.0 Link to post Share on other sites
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