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    Leaving for the islands in August

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    PR, yes weather is actually more predictable by then

    May is just the first chance, can be rather wait and see some years, last year it was the best window mid to late May

    we left 10th June, traditional the correct time and had an interesting trip

    plus last year the weather was best in Fiji from mid July onwards anyway 

    Let me know if you need someone to do your Cat 1 if that’s what your doing 

    Shipping lines around nz

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    Generally shipping stays outside of the Poor Knights, Mokohinau, Barrier and Cuvier unless they are heading into a port

    There aren’t any dedicated shipping lanes as such in NZ (that I know of)

    Ships are required to give way to sailing vessels unless within harbour limits or restricted by a shipping channel

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    The next yachting disaster

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    As a safety inspector I can check your prep and equipment easily however 

    I can only take a guess at your leave of stupid, if you have none you wouldn’t get out of bed in the morning and if you have extreme you probably never went to bed.

    Everyone that goes offshore needs some stupid but it’s generally experience that determines the outcome, however we all need to use up some stupid to gain experience 

    IMHO

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    The next yachting disaster

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    2 hours ago, Clipper said:

    With better forecasting, these disasters seem less likely to happen?

    Plus boats and crews in organised events tend to be much better prepared

    But saying that there will be another 

    Weather is a mix of pattern and chaos.

    SailGP

    in RaceTalk

    Posted

    Maybe the council could have put up some signs as follows 

    Don't Drink the Harbour Water (it’s most likely contaminated with human effluent)

    Don’t Eat the soil under the grandstand (it’s most likely contaminated with petrochemicals)

     

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    Going to cost more to own boat over 30yrs

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    From my understanding it’s not a pre purchase survey more a condition report

    I had the same thing when I asked for an offshore extension to my Vero policy

    then they changed their mind and said a Cat 1 certificate was all I needed 

    So if you have had a Cat 3 for say coastal done then try them with this ?

    Any experience with a Whiting 40?

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    57 minutes ago, Black Panther said:

    Do people honestly motor into strong headwinds?

    No

    but saying that the number of people we met in Fiji this year in cats mostly, that said ‘we motor or motorsail always on passage” surprised me 

    ‘There doesn’t seem to be the level of sailing skills in the cruising fleet that you would expect 

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    Auckland Tauranga Race on hold

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    On 11/11/2023 at 10:33 AM, CarpeDiem said:

    We're out this year. Too many crew (including myself) have had sea survival expire.

    I don't understand why squadron can do a race to three kings @ cat 2 with no sea survival requirement. Mhyc can do cc around the not insignificant Cape Brett rounding, where many a boat has come unstuck, without the need for a liferaft or dinghy at cat 3-, and rayc needs a cat 3+, which is pretty much the same as a cat 1 without the out-of-water inspection, for going around corromandle...

    There is much inconsistency from YNZ.   I cannot help but feel if that if the requirements were aligned there would be more participation by the virtue of there being more certified boats and people. 

    The organising authority decides the CATEGORY of races they run, they need sign off from YNZ but they (YNZ have very little current knowledge on running keelboat events.

    Advanced Sea Survival is a standard set by world sailing, I did my 4th one earlier in the year where a 2hr online refresher would have been just as much use.

    Just to give you a bit of warning Razz,

    SSANZ is now organising a Two Handed Northern Triangle for 2025 (only 15months away).

    It will be Cat 3 plus AIS and a qualifying race/passage required, have stopovers at Mangonui and Marsden Cove.

    Be a total of approx 490nm with a mixture of legs from 160nm, 250nm to a final sprint of 70nm, YB Trackers the whole nine yards.

    Evolution Sails are back onboard, it’s going to be huge.

    Fleet limited to 40, NOR out before year end and entries open 1st of April 2024

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    NZ Registration

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    As Booboo said, it is usually done in a few days at the NZ end. They probably just have that statement to cover any outlying issues 

    The old owners usually need to do the deregistration and then get that to you, this can take time depending upon where it’s currently registered 

    Any experience with a Whiting 40?

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    1 hour ago, B.light said:

    Thanks everyone for the advice, very much appreciated!

    Considering there's another whiting 40 that's setup for offshore cruising that's listed for about 50k more (out of my price range), I'm quite happy to put the work and money in over the few years while staying in NZ to get it up to the standard. And then at least it's all new gear and within date when I'm ready to go for it. 

    Asking and selling prices can be very different things

    Any experience with a Whiting 40?

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    3 hours ago, Black Panther said:

    Storm jib, trisail, jackstays.

     

    As a starting point let's consider a 40ft family cruiser, well maintained and well equipped but now decided to try a first offshore passage. So only looking at extra expense over continuing to cruise coastal.

    I'm with Matt no change out of 20k.

    What about communication?

    I’ll accept that it’s 20k if your starting from scratch, that’s why it’s always cheaper to start with a boat that’s well setup

    storm jib, trisail and Jackstays aren’t once costs but will have value on many passages and secondhand storm sails are cheap as most never get used

    comms have never been cheaper when you compare starlink to setting up ssb from scratch 

    anyone want to buy my Irridium Go ?  Can’t see myself using it again 

    Any experience with a Whiting 40?

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    It really comes down to where you are starting from and how much time you have to put into the prep versus paying for it.

    I’m in the middle of it right now (cruising in Fiji) and have spent less than $15k, let’s telly it up 

    Raft. Second hand 3yr old, $1500 - ASS plus Offshore medic $1200 - first aid kit $200 - sail overhaul $2500 - flares, life jacket service, fire extinguishers, eprib $1000 - Two Cat 1 inspections $500 - offshore insurance $4000

    On top of the above but would have done this regardless, you can include or not, haulout and Antifoul including out of water inspection, engine service, rig check including furler greasing, provisions $1000 but this is 4 months food. 
     

    We are finding everything is cheaper in Fiji except alcohol 

    But remember there’s no such thing as a cheap boat, our rig is 7 years old and hull is 15y, it’s always cheaper to start from the highest point you can afford and many of the costs have a expiration or service date so you really need to do them as close to departure as possible.

     

    Any experience with a Whiting 40?

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    51 minutes ago, Island Time said:

    Pretty big list. Download it from ynz and you'll see. However contrary to what others on here may say, there is little in the list that I wouldn't have.

    A few things that come to mind as well as your list are:

    A decent autopilot capable of steering in virtually any conditions

    Liferaft, medical kit (several thousand), offshore comms (sat ph, SSB, Starlink, whatever you decide, still a few thou more), steering cables, thorough rudder inspection, tools  spares, courses (sea survival, medical etc). 

    It can/will cost 10s of thousands to get a boat and crew ready.

    Medical kit can be done for a few hundred not thousand, however the ready to go kits are close to that.

    Get all the non scripted stuff from a discount chemist chain, skin stapler and Israeli bandages from online, then take the list of restricted drugs to your doctor when your doing a regular visit, then take this to Belmont Pharmacy or the likes that are used to doing this.

    I did the above and already had a trauma kit that was out of date so used that but you can also just use click clack plastic boxes.

    mine was well under $200

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    Registration Offshore such as the Cook Islands

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    6 hours ago, Black Panther said:

    While you are at it, can you waive the need for a gz curve forBP if I wanted to race  offshore.  Probably not going to happen now but that was the final straw last time.

    History would account for a lot if cruising but the Organising Authority will probably require it, but I’ll ask

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