Jon

Craig there is no way you will own it in 15 years, I'll put money on it. The best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour

Here you go Royale, a real kiwi boat but not at 250k like the one for sale here. Also no gst or duty http://au.yachtworld.com/boats/1979/Lid ... 9Xyk2IaySM Thanks Darkside, I thought I was decided before you posted that !

We looked at US boats initially but discounted them for two reasons being, 110v the other being the same boat in the US is about 20% more expensive. Also we don't get to sail across the Atlantic, so that makes three disadvantages As for the electrics of the Euro boats well I'm taking the Electrician on both the purchase trip and the real one. Yes we are only interested in owner versions that haven't been charted. And are looking at above average production / semi production models. Staying away from the average bear hopefully.

Darkside Thinking low but what will that be ? We have a line of them, first one on the hit list is in Spain then 3 days later we will be in Nice, I don't think they will know what's hit them. I'd hate to offer 60% of asking price and them say yes, but I guess if it's a bargin to us them everyone's happy And yes looking at non charter owners versions Not planning on much time in the Med but maybe next time ?

Interesting thread We have been looking for a 50' cruiser for the last year and everything we have seen here is either at least 3/4 of a mi or a POS. So we leave in six weeks to by in the Med It's looking likely that for less than $300k nz we will buy a yacht less than 5 years old and fitted out to a level not seen here. The biggest question on my mind is how low with my initial offer do I go ? 50, 70, 80 % of asking price ?? We will sail home, which is also a bonus Planning on taking a year in total on and off but if it takes two years then I won't be crying.

If it's the one I think your talking about I hope they are looking after it.

The idea of that sail is to just induce more heel ?

Or here are 4 options for Whangaroa

Here are 4 options that will cover all wind directions

Below radio info Definatly do Whangaroa if you have time, and don't worry about a marina unless you need supplies as there are plenty of places to anchor It's about 20 nm to Whangaroa then another 35 to Keri Keri aprox so it's doable in a little cruiser with a favourable breeze but it will make the trip if you stopover. You will be in ph range the whole way CG nowcasting Location Channel Doubtless Bay 20 Bay of Islands 21 Or CG on Whangaroa 84 BOI 86 Far North Radio VHF Channels: 60 East Coast, VHF Weather Broadcasts: 0730, 1330, 1730 and 1930 on request

Went around the westhaven brokerages this afternoon Only found one open

YNZ Safety Regulations SR Appendix 5 Page 152 Can be down loaded or viewed here http://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/Upload/Use ... _09-12.pdf