Jump to content
Crew.org.nz

Zozza

Members
  • Content Count

    1,503
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    52

Posts posted by Zozza

  1. Pettit Trinidad SR, used to contain Irgarol as the Biocide. This has been banned in NZ and many other countries now, hence why the Paint is not sold here. It was a very expensive coating, which could also be why it is not sold here. But it got great reviews years ago.

     

    Hi Wheels, I don't see Igarol on the safety data sheet where it lists the compounds in it - top of pg 3 on link below

    http://www.pettitpaint.com/fileshare/product_sds/1677-pettit-trinidad-sr-red-a1167706-sds-pdf.pdf

     

    Never heard of this brand for sale in NZ before - and your are right, it consistently gets the best reviews everywhere online on all sailing forums.

     

    Edit: Actually, this 2015 report says "Igarol" is the slime resistant forumla they use, and that is what the "SR" stands for:

    Bottom paints containing Irgarol are usually marketed as having a boosting agent that enhances the paint’s protection against algae, soft growth, or “slime,” and are priced around $30 higher than similar formulas without Irgarol. Interlux’s Micron Extra with Biolux, Pettit’s slime-resistant “SR” formulas such as Trinidad SR and Ultima SR-40 (and SR-60), and Blue Water’s Copper Pro “SCX” paints such as Copper Pro SCX67 (hard and ablative) are examples of these paints. In our most recent test involving 55 different paints, nearly one-quarter of them contained Irgarol.

    http://www.xssailing.com/news/bottom-paint-makers-face-irgarol-shortage-2/

     

    Actually, you can get Pettit Trinidad with the SR or without.

    Maybe I should try import the one without to be safe.

     

    $163 NZD for a gallon (just under 4 litres). Even with customs taxes / GST, that is not bad.

    http://1outlets.nz/pettit-paint-co-trinidad-green-sr-quart-1377q-NZD-ccy/sku/1OvziadLcyOgimsQ8c0SeC/

  2. Anyone know, or anyone tried?

     

    Particular brand is called: Pettit Trinidad SR, basically a cuprous oxide antifoul with PTFE (teflon).  I am pretty sure PTFE is not a banned substance in NZ paints, and I know for sure cuprous oxide isn't.

     

    I know there are strict restrictions on importing 'hazardous substances', but if the paint contains none of the additives banned in NZ, which I don't believe it does, then I shouldn't have an issue - right?

     

    Here's a data sheet: http://www.go2marine.com/docs/mfr/petit/Trinidad-SRproductsheet.pdf

     

  3. I have a carbon fibre mast - currently out of the boat during refit.  My original clear coat too is fading badly as I have no space to store it but outside, but will look good with a two pot paint.  However, I have been told you have to be careful when sanding so you don't start sanding off carbon.  I was thinking of a 220 grit hand sand, primer, then the the two pot finish....not sure if this is correct process, so please chip in with anything different to above

  4. Just to lighten things up and talk about an encounter where communication was exemplary and the customer was very satisfied (and no prizes to the Shore boys for guessing who this is)

    I needed a small casting and had made a pattern, dropped into the local foundry - discussion went something like this:

    me: Gidday xxxx, how are you

    xxxx: what the f... do you want

    me: can you make a bronze casting for me from this pattern

    xxxx: of course I f.....g can

    me: that's great, when do you reckon you have it ready

    xxxx: why don't you come back next f.....g week and find out!

     

    a week goes by

    me: gidday xxxx, is my job ready

    xxxx: course it f.....g is

    me: excellent, what do I owe you for it

    xxxx: why don't you just f... off

     

    For some reason your exchange reminds me of this scene from Gran Torino

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXD8yOxIPB0

  5. All I am saying is I think $600 is pretty cheap to quote for that job and what he has charged maybe reasonably fair. 

     

    Theres a few hours work in making stays so on top of the components etc you have labour did he have to take them off the rig and refit them this all adds up and was it in the original scope of work. 

     

    Well if the rigger dude is as experienced and as good as you and a few others say he is, what is he doing quoting $600 if its too cheap? He should know better. And, if he has cocked up - yep, we are all human - then what is the problem with him fronting up to Sabre on the phone and admitting he cocked up, and working it out with Sabre? Sabre seems like a genuine good bloke - I am sure they could meet halfway.

     

    And Sabre is spot on - its not up to Sabre to take time off work to go chasing this rigger.

  6. Could also mean times are better than we all think - Billy English says so and wants your vote - and they make enough that the odd, or even more than a few customers they give sh*t service too, doesn't matter to their bottom line.

     

    One thing I have noticed in the marine industry, if your boat is under 30 foot, bar a few exceptions - those almost "lotto" type moments that Sabre talks about - they just do not wanna know.  

    • Upvote 1
  7. I think it's a common problem in the marine industry especially if you are not overseeing the work yourself.  It leaves the contractor to make decisions when you are not there.  

     

    KM is right though communication is everything.  I'd rather know the bad news that i'm up for more money or a late delivery rather than have to find out when something does not arrive or you get an invoice for twice the amount.  

     

    It's not just age related, a certain sail loft  right now was meant to have a sail delivered to me ordered 6 weeks ago and I'm flying out to Fiji next week, no communication or only when I contact them has meant it won't be coming to Fiji with me which means it will cost some money to DHL it.  The question will come down to who pays for that.

     

    Communication and a dose of common courtesy.

     

    I am sure some customers are assholes, but most of us are are reasonable people. 

     

    In my case a simple phone call or text a bit earlier in the day, saying "Sorry Zozza, things have got a bit busy, and haven't been able to complete your windows, but I will have them ready Monday afternoon for you".  

    That would not have been a problem. Instead I get a rundown of his "industry", which was preceded by a rude "Not going to happen".

     

    In Sabres case - the guy has dropped the ball big time. Just how many times does he have to phone this guy?  

     

    And in your case Southernman....six weeks ago? That is just outrageous. Sails are generally not cheap either.

  8. The problem here is that we only get to hear one side of the story.

    Here is a novel idea instead of whingeing on an internet forum. Ring the guy up or go and talk to him. A lot more productive.

     

    This forum, any forum, in fact any medium, whether it be internet, TV, radio, whatever,,, largely gives "one side of the story".Whether you choose to believe that "story" is up to you.  

    I've stated my "story".

    Sabre has stated his.

    You can, as can any punter, decide what you want to believe, and make your own judgements.

    Last time I looked I lived in New Zealand, not North Korea.

    • Upvote 1
  9. I have no idea who Sabre is talking about. No names have been mentioned, but if some people have figured out who it is, and he did give an estimate, and then charges over double, and can't be got hold of without getting a sniffer dog posse together, then man, that's just too bad for him.

     

    Here's a novel thought for businessmen and tradesmen...and how they treat their customers.....treat everyone the same, don't treat some good, some bad, some indifferent depending on how your indigestion is, or how bitchy your mrs has been lately - and you won't get pissed off punters.

     

    Someone said he was "old school".

    You want to talk about old school? In old school, a man's word was his bond. Maybe Sabtre's rigger, and my window cutter guy need a bit of a bloody good dose of old school values.

  10. Thank you. That is exactly what I will do then along with an offer to settle it for $800. He doesn't seem to have email so it will have to be by registered letter I guess.

     

    I would take a pic of both sides of the cheque, and I would also courier it with tracking and with "signature required" on receipt.

    That way you have a complete end to end trail of proof. 

×
×
  • Create New...