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Not Keelboats but the 8.5's seem to have the best bang for buck, multi use racing around fro what I can see (don't own one but want to one day)
Sport TY's and Sportboats seem to be getting out sailing a bit now.
Looking at entries R930's have been dieing away as a (modified) class.
R780's had a few boats at Aviemore.
Noelex 22's do a bit of sailing but wouldn't think they would be anygood for a CC or the like.
Or Piedy's.
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Peninsula is an 800m high ridge dissected by 2- 3nm deep fiord like bays so yep bullets and downdrafts in close, like the barrier only worse. Only place to hide in a southerly blast is purau or pigeon bay really
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Sitting in Canterbury now, sure as hell would not like to be out there... it’s cold and the about 40-50kts, not gust just steady, the wind through the shelter belt sounds like a jet plane taking off. See is a foamy mess of white and done decent swell has arrived. Can’t imagine a 10m boat out there.
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17 minutes ago, Tamure said:
I would be a massive supporter of a sailors marina, I believe that part of westhaven should be run in the interests of the average club sailor, obviously its a post referendum fully loaded pipe dream because its never going to happen but if you're a club member and have a smaller boat up to say 10-12m you get a club rate- say 20% off? The club membership would go through the roof! Everyone wins!!!
We have a marina trust up here which keeps everything honest and affordable.
Seems trailerable is the way racing is going up here rather than keelers, maybe the same in Auckland.
As for boat sales, mine is for sale (has been for a wee while) and working with a few prospective buyers but none willing to push play until Covid recovery certainity, which seems to be the go in the low-mid priced racer market at present from what I hear.
The tupperware cruisers are going quite cheap (45-50ft bene's for 150-250k mark) as owners have long since bailed out with their boat on the hard.
As always in a reccession I guess, if you have cash you are good to go and @2.5% not worth keeping it in the bank. If you are getting started and need 60-80k for a family cruiser-racer you may not be able to prioritise that spending right now.
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It’s for sale cheap (bottle of gin) comes with anchoring bits and cranse iron.
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Still not sure what she is capable of, but with a new keel bulb she could really light up.
Still very quick downwind, not quite the height upwind of the skinnier boats ( she is 4m on the beam). I recently removed an alloy bowsprit, she now sits a good 30-50mm higher in the bow which can only be a good thing for a snoutty boat. Will see when we go sailing next week.
Fastest we have had was 18.5knots but 12-15 seems to be the sweet spot in a good send.
when I got her the keel fin was a shambles so we faired that and that made a monster difference. A T- keel seems to fire these boats up. And with a 4m beam, water ballast would be useful.
sadly keelboat sailing is in a poor state in whangarei and sport trailer yachts are where it’s at so that’s where I’m hoping to go to.
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5 hours ago, DrWatson said:
Nice, whats she made of? And disp?
Duracore, Kevlar and glass for the hull foamply decks glassed with ply winch patches.
3.7tonnes on the travel lift.
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Up on Trademe now if you know anyone looking for a good RNI boat for reasonable https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/boats-marine/yachts/keeler/listing/2771536047
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2 hours ago, Duty Free said:
Hi--can anyone point me in the direction of someone experienced with B&G gear --I have B&G wind/depth, Zeus 7 chartplotter, NAIS-400 and NPLE splitter, and 2 triton displays---unfortunately the system is only working intermittently since the RNI and currently not displaying anything other than the chartplotter information (but not the AIS information )-----have tested the connections and power which is going through the whole backbone etc --data only seems to be being displayed intermittently
Now its got beyond my capabilities so want to get an experienced person in to sort out what the problem is and hopefully fix it --any help appreciated ,
Andrew M
Stupid question but have you checked the sources are matched to the data in the source menu?
my 2 vulcans keep defaulting to getting their gps data off each other which is annoying when you turn one off and everything shuts down.
sometimes my older raymarine AP starts feeding the heading data rather than my fancy 9-axis etc. refreshing the source list seems to fix it, but had to manually select where I wanted data to come from in some times.
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I think that’s where the inspectors get confused... the single braids which are mentioned in the Regs- have a uv coating. The local inspector said he thought that was sufficient to count as a sheath as long as chafe protection was sorted. But he wouldn’t commit until he saw the lifelines.
at half the price of super cable and still loads of strength figure it’s worth exploring.
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Cost and ease of splicing are why I wanted to go the single braid route. Regs don’t specify single or double braid. I know overseas single braid is fine and that’s what my backstay is made out of so hoping it would be fine for lifelines. The local inspector says he thinks so.
it’s pretty easy to lash on a sheath where it goes though staunchions.
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Just thinking through lifeline options and was wondering if anyone had recently been through an inspection. Plan was to used single braid dyneema that is uv coated and as sleeves at major chafe points (stanchions and where headsails skirt) will this comply? Rules are clear as mud. I know KM has written about this a while back but was wondering if the safety inspectors had clarified it since ( I want to use the fine line dyneema braid).
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I'm selling my Elliot 10.5 after lots of work, time for a dedicated cruiser and a wee racer.
If you are looking for a fun, spacious cruiser/racer that's well appointed and had's lot's of $$$ spent on her message me or give me a call on 0275 985 735.
Currently out of the water and being antifouled next week for relaunch. Full receipts for all gear and work done. This boat would make a great lower budget RNI boat and is probably the roomiest 10.4 metre boat around for cruising.
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1 hour ago, 44forty said:
I found a way to drive there from the south after many failed attempts and a bit of diplomacy with a local marae . That route has some very good spots too and sometimes we would stop on the way instead going on to K rua . A mate once surfed herekino bar and drove in there with his work Ute ....he looked into the beach after a few waves and the Ute was gone ....now he has a very violent streak being the smallest of 4 very large brothers , one who has played as prop for the Italian team at World Cup level . Anyway he paddled in and walked the half hour up harbour and started door knocking , blowing his lid and pulling rank (his grandfather grew up in the area ) . He got his Ute back before it got damaged and still happily surfs there ....don’t upset him though !
Lot’s of large toothy fish on that bar in summer.
We used to surf the left just north of there, rode our XR 250’s in from TanuTanu (which is a pretty magic place too.
You used to be able to cross a couple of metres back from the entrance from mid tide down where the channels braid out - it really is that shallow.
there is a great small swell aframe reef/ point just over the hill. This was before jet skis and life jackets and such.
Sailing link is a yacht called the “Erewhon” went up on TanuTanu beach - luckily on a rare calm night and at high tide. Insurance company cut a track and hired the army to drag it up the dunes and back to the road - The dunes are 150-200metres high. Pretty impressive effort to get out. Became known as the erewhon trsil and provided access to Tanu Tanu at high tide for years until the local Iwi closed it.
We used to ride down the Dunes on snowboards after it rained. Even built a terrain park one day.
Happy memories of a childhood in a truly amazing place.
also nearly drowned there countless times, it’s a truly powerful and unforgiving piece of our coast.
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I grew up in Ahipara, know the area pretty well and surfed and fished that coast.
Biggish tides (3metres or so) so yes there’s water at high tide on the bar and the main channel, drys extensively just up from the entrance- used to be able to ride a motorbike across at low tide but the sand and channels move around a lot. It’s more a lagoon than harbour.
not much to see so a lot of risk for no real reward. Pub is closed down so not even that to visit.
Whangape however is much more of a harbour.
Both have closed bars with little or no channel meaning you’ll be surfing in. Also both will put you on truly unforgiving coast if you f*ck it up.
Unless you wanted to land an illicit shipment or sneak into the country there’s no reason to visit them.
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1 hour ago, Deep Purple said:
Anyone know Fantail? She's entered in Island Cruising D but looks perfect to join us in W/L's
https://www.topyacht.com.au/mt/mt_pub.php?boid=7613&evid=1292
They shared a berth with us last Bay week, really lovely family sailed her. Cool boat but quite a bit slower to windward than most C div boats definitely Div E.
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what’s the survey for?
Don Burch @ Harbourside boat works does Category and insurance surveys. Not sure about pre-purchase but really good to deal with.
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We’ll be doing Div C. Will enter soon. Hopefully we get plenty of wind
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12 minutes ago, Dtwo said:
Good points, but -
- already letting superyachts in if they have $50k pre-booked work
- safety is an issue, like it or not. I am guessing but there's a strong chance that the cruising boat's insurance may not cover them sitting in FP during cyclone season.
Nobody wants Covid to get established here, but we should be looking at this situation and evaluating the relevant risks rather than conflating it with planeloads of people from virus infected countries.
Not Judging the rights and wrongs of letting the cruisers in, but imagine the governments situation.
There is no real difference on how you arrive in law today. so that would need sorting.
So you legislate or regulate to allow entry by sea for pleasurecraft.
Next thing a flotilla leaves China/USA/India/Australia/South America full of prospective migrants. The demand to emigrate to NZ is massive right now so it's a real prospect.
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24 minutes ago, Fish said:
So, if you are in governance, what do you do?
If you let people in from half a world away (Tahiti), who else do you have to let in? Half of India is clamouring to come back here. They already have established lives / family / jobs here apparently. Do those people have a greater claim to entry than cruising sailors in the Eastern Pacific?
Every foreign sailor already in NZ doesn't want to leave. All the back-packers etc don't want to leave. If you let these guys in for this summer, will they leave again next winter?
It is far easier to say no to everyone, than to say yes to some and no to others. Its the 'where do you draw the line' arguement, otherwise known as the thin end of the wedge. Much like our lockdown was a blanket everything lockdown, Victoria have had some random 'lockdown' with so many loopholes, it wasn't really a lockdown. It didn't work for them.
While a logical arguement (from our point of view) can be put to let these cruisers in, I suspect the governments answer will be no to everyone. If C 19 keeps on going how it looks, over half the world's population will be claiming a good reason to be let into NZ. So, no to everyone...
I think that is the moral hazard - there a lot of people that want to move here (especially from countries with no welfare/medical systems. A depression is a great time to be in a country where healthcare is free and there is state care. Many of those people have paid very little tax in NZ, they are simply trying to get here to take advantage of things now. If you let the cruisers come (who have other options like tying up their boats and flying home- they aren't in any real personal danger) then you are saying NZ is open and the flood begins, our services get overwhelmed and we all pay for it.
I get that they will spend a bit of money but it's the over all cost that I'm sure the Government is weighing up.
It's a bit misleading to call the cruisers a humanitarian or safety crisis though.
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54 minutes ago, SeaEagleii said:
TazzyDevil
That is a great idea! yea! He did crew for a short time from Hobsonville while we were refitting the big boat and did enjoy that.
The only issue I see is the inability to commit to every weekend as we live a few hours away and are not there every weekend.Where about are you based, plenty of options out if Auckland too.
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Or get them signed up as crew on a racing machine. They will be well sought after if they are committed and will learn a lot. Get to do some cool races on hot machines that other people pay for and learn what makes a boat fast, about category safety gear, heavy weather etc. They will learn so much from a regular race crew over a season.
Then the Variant becomes their adventure vehicle.
The Variant will always be slow no matter how well sailed compared to the 30-35ft cruiser racers in most club fleets, and it does suck constantly being a back marker in the fleet.
By crewing on a regular racer they can get the best of both worlds.
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Cool little boats, much more a keeler than similar sized Trailer Yachts.
4-5 knots and you are doing well for speed.
As for conditions, if the boat is well found and proper seamanship applied they will handle most stuff. I remember lots of the bilge keel versions sailing from Wellington across to the Able Tasman area for summer holidays and they seem to handle the Strait fine - Could often be seen drying out the stern hung outboard though!.
In terms of advice, these boats won't go much faster or slower than hull speed so choose sail area for comfort, reef early and often. One I sailed on was super comfy in 15-18 odd knots with 3rd reef and a handkerchief size jib up front while the racing boats were all running #2's and full mains and working hard. Still doing 4-5 knots.
Cheapest way to go coastal cruising camping style, enjoy!
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This is what I got after doing a bit of homework - Awesome stuff and kiwi made. Really solid too. It's what the commercial guys wear.
https://www.kaiwakaclothing.co.nz/collections/marine/MENS
Doesn't look as fancy but it's dry and bullet proof. Been in plenty of horizontal rain and hail and the like in an open cockpit boat and no worries with getting wet - dry as bone under neath.
They also do a lifetime service of restitching and the like if you need it - really recommend this stuff. Expect to have it for a long time too.
Gill, like most stuff from burnsco is cheap and nasty and won't last in my experience (Owned a few Gill bit's and pieces - all leaked and all perished after a season or two)
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Only problem is you would just have created evidence for waterblasting antifoul without a proper resource consent so will probably get a call from someone else in the council. The NRC have a strange view that dairy farming leaves waterways pristine but all boaties are eco terrorists and should pay levies etc.