Black Panther

It might be the pocket wasn't sewn flat. Unpick it, tension the sail slightly, stick the pocket down with double sided tape and re sew. Better still, ask Booboo first.

My weekends are Wed/Thurs if I'm lucky. So went up tues night, slept on the mooring. Wed Morning Jim the old/other owner met me and we did oil change/oil filter/air filter/fuel filter/water strainer and heat exchanger zinc and clean. Then had a few hours of daylight left so went for a romp up and down the bay (couldn't get him off the handlebars, I think he misses it). Back to the YC dock to drop Jim off and top up the water, then decided I didn't want to spend the night on the mooring again so went back out and wound up inside Te Puna inlet (hard to find an anchorage sheltered from the SW f

+1 To me the cost of purchase is much less important than the on going costs. I buy the boat whilst employed and pay what it takes. ( we pretty much paid the man his asking price because the rest of the deal was so good). But when we stop working and go sailing we are on a modest, fixed income and the budget will be very important.

There's probably a lot in this thread to encourage buyers.

Woohoo- we are famous. She says a new imported 12-metre Bavaria 41 keeler can be purchased for $325,000 with extras. Similar-sized New Zealand second-hand boats are going for $270,000, and "they're old boats with old issues", she said. I'd say 270k for a 2nd hand 40 ft boat is too much Just one example http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-m ... 989091.htm Which I would prefer over a Bav 41 at any price. Go figure.

Just be thankful you aren't female and black

What does a second hand replacement cost?

geez- I am sure a saw a spare couple of mil lying around the house the other day, now where was it?

There are property forums????

Fascinating. I was about to comment that this forum wouldn't affect anything, but that post has me reconsidering. I am now officially uncertain.

You can't have mine, it's not for sale.

I think MB is describing me

You also need to consider societal changes since the 70's. The rich have got richer , the poor have got poorer and the middle class is shrinking.

Labour weekend is looming on the horizon

Agree. That's what i do when I need to sell a car, it always works.

Fowl Play

Gulls just wanna have fun

Gullible Men

Ply/foam/ply?

Seemed like a pleasant enough trip, but I'm with IT, one person who can say "nothing to worry about - that's normal" can do a lot to calm a rookie crew. Lucky nothing bad happened.

The dutchman is cool, but probably not worth the hassle or expense on a boat your size. If I may offer a suggestion - do what needs to be done to get sailing, then go sailing, then decide what additions/alterations are necessary. When we bought BP I had a long list of things I Wanted to do. Luckily I can't start them as I have to finish paying for the boat first. But surprisingly the list is now way, way shorter as i learn that what was put there by the designer and the previous two owners is actually pretty smart.

You boat has the measles! Did you go to Armageddon?

Initial viewing says not many bolts and all in one row.

And they didn't notice the keel had snapped off?

One of my favourite sailing bloggers is Bob Wise, owner and builder of the original Loose Moose. I tried to find his entry on this but couldn't so will paraphrase as best I can: turning up in an anchorage in a boat so far outside the norm meant we were subject to quite some abuse from people offended by the appearance of our boat. I always considered it a useful "bigot filter" so I'd know who to avoid. Apologies for the thread drift.