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19 minutes ago, waikiore said:
Well K4309 we are importing over 500T of coal each week to charge the Teslas so yes it is available , (from my POA contacts) just not so much high quality Westport coal as the old days.
Well there you go. I'm sure a bit for an old steam boat wont make a jot of difference to the next flood / cyclone / atmospheric river / polar jet stream or what ever normal weather even the mainstream media try to scare us with.
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Steam engines and the like are fascinating engineering marvels and were fundamental to our progress as a society. I love seeing them at places like Motat. But it is beyound me how to save this boat. As we all know the cost of maintenance of any boat is increasing alarmingly. Keeping a very old steel boat up to scratch would be a phenomenal job, let alone trying to run it on coal.
Are you even allowed to purchase coal in NZ anymore? And if you are, where can you get it from? I assume it's not held in stock at Farmlands, Z energy or Meridian Energy?
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5 hours ago, Zozza said:
Herald has the details. Very sad situation.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/stricken-fiji-yacht-sailor-clive-nothlings-widow-wants-husband-home/SYV7ZKBGMNERHMBYUXSCNEFR6E/Autopilot packed up, leading to the skipper getting knocked unconscious by the boom, later dieing.
Following the Platino and now Second Life, I wonder if CAT 1 will make boom-breaks or some other form of gybe preventer mandatory.
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One member of a New Zealand yachting crew has died and two more are seriously injured after being struck by a broken mast off the coast of Fiji.
The Rescue Co-ordination Centre in Fiji said the crew sent a mayday distress call near Nadi at around 9pm last night.
"One of the yacht's mast broke and the crew got hit by it," a spokesperson said.
Maritime New Zealand's Rescue Coordination Centre confirmed that one person died after being hit by the mast.
An Australian cruise ship, the Pacific Explorer, diverted its route to help the yacht.
But a Maritime NZ said the cruise ship was too big and could only pick up one of the survivors for medical treatment.
One dead, two seriously injured after NZ yacht accident off Fiji coast | RNZ News
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RNZ (radio) said the crewman was killed when the rig came down. If that is the case it is very sad indeed.
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The NZ Herald story above made it sound like there was two crew, this story says 3, but one dead.
Perhaps the NZ Herald story was referring to two crew alive. One taken off and being treated on the cruise ship, and one still alive with one dead on the yacht, which appears would be rolling around like a bastard. All sounds very concerning / bad / sad whatever is going on
One person has died after getting into trouble in water near Fiji. They were on a yacht with two other people when a mayday was called on Sunday night.
Kiwi cruise passenger Ali Gilhurst told Stuff the captain alerted the passengers about the death on Monday afternoon.
“He told us one person on the yacht was, unfortunately, deceased before we got there last night. Another passenger was rescued from the vessel today by the Fijian crew. There were originally three on board the stricken yacht.”
One person is dead as a cruise ship sailed to rescue mayday call | Stuff.co.nz
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8 minutes ago, Island Time said:
Broken rig and one dead.
Wonder what happened.
Doesn't sound like a very successful rescue then.
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Link here:
Photo of the boat with whole mast floating around, then video of the boat tied up to the floating apartment with half a mast, the top bit which is banging against the superstructure of the cruise ship, possibly the bridge wing (something sticking out a bit more than usual).
Others are on the yacht, so getting them and the yacht home has now been seriously complicated. Guess the cruise ship didn't want to launch a boat to go to the yacht?
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5 hours ago, Zozza said:
Another "atmospheric river' heading to BOP this time....it just goes on and on
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/weather-news/132999308/atmospheric-river-over-bay-of-plenty-could-bring-one-month-of-rainfall-in-just-24-hoursYou shouldn't read main stream media so much. They are talking it up and creating anxiety to get more clicks. All because it is the first El Nino pattern since 2016. Most people can't remember what the weather did 7 years ago, but the MSM can sure scare the sweet baby Jesus out of you and get you into a hot anxious panic about something you have zero control over. These are all perfectly normal weather cycles. That is why they are so easy to forecast 3 to 6 months out.
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3 hours ago, Zozza said:
Patience, Grasshopper.
It is the spring equinox after all.
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Did American Magic ever get the dispensation to not race in Jeddah and not cop a fine for defaulting? They raised legitimate safety concerns about American Sailors on a boat with a huge American flag floating around on water where almost everyone would love to kill an American.
This story may give some insights as to what motivated Dalton to take the AC to Saudi Arabia:
The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia has admitted for the first time that he has been “sportswashing” its image and “will continue doing so” by investing in the likes of Newcastle United, LIV Golf and bringing Cristiano Ronaldo to the country.
In a stunning admission, Mohammed bin Salman, the Gulf state’s de-facto leader, declared he would “continue doing sportswashing” due to its impact on the economy there and did not care what others thought of that.
Saudi Arabia has been accused of investing hundreds of millions of pounds in sport to distract attention from human rights violations committed by the country. They include the execution of 81 men in a single day last year, women’s rights abuses, the criminalisation of homosexuality, the restriction of free speech, and its role in the war in Yemen.
Bin Salman was also implicated personally in the brutal 2018 murder of dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi, although the crown prince has denied any involvement.
“If sportswashing increases my GDP by 1% then I will continue doing sportswashing,” he told Fox News.
Asked if he was “OK” with a term coined by critics of such activity, he replied: “I don’t care. I have one per cent growth GDP from sport and I’m aiming for another one-and-a-half per cent – call it whatever you want. We’re going to get that one-and-a-half per cent.”
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Last chance to submit your feedback on the Landing Hardstand closing. Consultation closes this week.
It is an easy form to fill out.
The Landing Concept Plan (Pathways to the Sea) | AK Have Your Say (aucklandcouncil.govt.nz)
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1 hour ago, Okahu Sailor said:
Finally I hope that some of you appreciate hearing from the other side and for the rest I will leave you to your echo chamber.
PS, think you'll find it's not an echo chamber, it's just that your arguement doesn't stack up.
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5 minutes ago, Okahu Sailor said:
Ok I wasn't going to reply but I'll do one more. If a golf course, rugby field, cricket pitch, skate park, basketball court was under utilised and better served the community as something else then yes that should at the very least be explored. In this case it still serving the same community just in a different way.
I'm not sure conspiracy means what you think it does. A conspiracy is 'a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.' So delete the word conspiracy from all my posts and add that phrase in if you prefer.
Fairly sure you'll find it's under utilised because the operator got the boot, you booted all the boats off it and no one can haul out.
So as of now, it's just sitting their growing weeds. Yes you can legitimately say it is under utilised, but only cause you shafted it. Basic dirty tricks.
PS, still didn't answer re your major donor's financial interest in the Tamaki Marine Park. If it's not true, just give us a 'no'. We'll take silence as a yes.
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30 minutes ago, Okahu Sailor said:
I read all 10 pages prior to posting so I was definitely aware of the sentiment on here. My reason for posting was not an attempt to gain positive votes from forum users but to present the other side of the argument - That there are many, many people out there, myself included, that have genuine reasons for supporting the closure of this hardstand, which do not involve conspiracy or collusion. While I am aware that some people will be negatively impacted, I believe that on balance the boating community as a whole will see a large benefit in the longer term. I believe there is plenty of hardstand capacity in Auckland for actual (not theoretical) demand, illustrated by the fact that this particular hardstand was subsidised and still under utilised. While well suited to some it was poorly suited for most, and will better serve the boating and wider community as a park with a focus on marine events. I know that hardstands are important and hope that as or when demand increases in the future commercial and club yards are allowed to increase their footprints and operations without encountering unneeded bureaucracy and red tape, and I really hope that owners of niche trimarans can find an adequate solution.
Finally I hope that some of you appreciate hearing from the other side and for the rest I will leave you to your echo chamber.
All you are really saying is "I don't use it, therefore it should be closed and used for something that I think is better".
I don't use golf courses, rugby fields, cricket pitches, skate parks, basketball courts or many other community facilities the Council provides.
That doesn't give me the right to run around getting them all closed down, or used for something I think is a far more productive use of the land. Its about basic respect for the current users.
As for your 'conspiracy theory' fall back position. It is a basic fact that you closed the hardstand, got all the boats off it and booted the operator, then turned around and told the High Court Judge "a decision on its future hasn't been made". Some people just lack integrity.
Oh, and you still wont answer the question about your major donor and his financial interest in the Tamaki Marine Park. Why not? Scared your 'conspiracy theory' refrain might be shown to be a fact?
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On 18/09/2023 at 8:31 PM, Okahu Sailor said:
In an era of declining participation and increasing compliance costs many sports clubs around the country face an uncertain future. Yacht clubs are no exception. So should they keep doing what they’ve always done with some tweaks around the edges and slip further into decline? Or make some fundamental changes to ensure a sustainable future?
Royal Akarana Yacht Club has chosen the latter. Giving up their exclusive use of their site in Okahu Bay and opening up to a variety of marine user groups along with some very generous donations the Marine Sports Centre has taken shape. Visit the site on a sunny weekend and you will immediately see its popularity. Hundreds of people using the site for many different activities, mostly but not exclusively marine related. Dinghy sailing and paddle sports being the most popular. But they have a long way to go to ensure long term survival. They have plans for national and international events which will drive participation and encourage growth in dinghy sailing (which will in turn filter sailors through to keelboats), growing their very successful learn to sail programs as well as continuing their former core activities such as offshore keelboat racing. And now that will be along side other marine sports such as Waka Ama, rather then competing against them for resources. This is in part funded by the restaurant and event centre on site, a very necessary part of ensuring a sustainable operation.
So then there is The Landing hardstand. An anomaly in Auckland it was neither club owned or fully commercial. Run by a private contractor but funded by Auckland Council for the exclusive use of a fortunate few, in a location that is no longer and probably never was particularly well suited to its use. When the consultation was opened on the hardstand’s future the Marine Sports Centre and RAYC recognised the sites huge potential as a hub for marine events, as well as turning The Landing into a space that people want to visit to further encourage growth. And yes additional storage for club boats in an age where people don’t have the means to own their own boats, or space to store them at home. (As a side note there about 60 club boats in the Marine Sports Centre and ASC boat sheds, another 30 club dinghies within the Centre footprint, 60 surfskis in two 40’ containers in the carpark, several Waka on the grass in front, 20 or so more Waka elsewhere on the site and another 40 odd members boats either on the ramp or in the back carpark. At least 200 boats in total which are all regularly used - there is demand for more and a long waiting list for very limited member storage. Restaurant storage comprises a 3m x 3m cage in the shed.)
Instead of suggesting boycotts and implying conspiracies which will only drive the sailing community apart, I would invite you to visit the site on a sunny weekend and imagine just how good it could be as a hub for marine sporting events. And maybe even recognise that increased maintenance costs for a small group of boat owners could actually be for the greater good of the sport and long term survival of one of New Zealand’s oldest yacht clubs.
Well this thread isn't going how you wanted, @Okahu Sailor. 8 negative votes already and unanimous opposition to your position . Looks like you should have got that Communications Consultant after all...
I trust this demonstrates to you the depth of feeling around how RAYC is shafting the wider boating community. I hope you take this onboard and reflect on the damage you are doing. Perhaps even a positive outcome, change RAYC's position on expansion at the expense of others?
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24 minutes ago, ynot said:
Just bent my own 1" stainless... Came up mint without even filling with sand but the radius was pretty big.
Just takes a bit of thought and measuring.... Oh and a trial piece.
So are you just bending it by hand? Or are you using some tools?
I assume you have made the curves you want out of that timber, and are bending it to that?
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14 minutes ago, Okahu Sailor said:
Well I'm glad you appreciate my writing. You're obviously hellbent on finding a conspiracy but all I can tell you is that there isn't one - that the clubs reasons for supporting the closure are genuine. You don't have to agree with their reasons, but I'm sick of seeing some of the absolute rubbish out there, a PR specialist - really?! Go to the club and speak with Nicky the GM or Nick the Commodore. You won't see hired communications consultants but you will find genuine hard working people that are passionate about the future of the club and rightly or wrongly believe that closure is in the club's best interests hence their support.
I note you won't deny the connection. Good oh.
So your current response is to try and marginalise me with the good old "conspiracy theorist".
You will win your way. You have the connections and influence, oh, and money. But you have lost a lot of respect from the wider boating community for the way you have gone about this and conducted yourself. Just saying.
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9 minutes ago, Okahu Sailor said:
I'm not on any RAYC committees but I am a member and managed to write all that drivel myself.
My understanding is the hardstand had in the region of 300 users a year. The Marine Sports Centre would easily do that in a weekend themselves, then add to that all the other groups that could use the space - other waka ama clubs, SUP and sailors that have nothing to do with the club. But the point is they are looking at long term sustainability and want to be bigger and better. How awesome would it be to have the Opti World champs, a Laser World Champs, Youth Worlds etc at The Landing which the RAYC will be able to host. Fishing tournaments, Waka Ama nationals (3500 athletes, 10,000 spectators!), Triathlons, Swimming races...
From the local board side they represent the community in which they also live (Before you ask - I'm not on the local board either). While I understand the need for boat yards I don't understand why a local board should be forced to provide an exclusive facility for private boat maintenance in a local park, that has increasing demand from many other users. Just because its always been there is not a reason for it to continue.
Then there is the argument of hardstand capacity. If you listened to the AYBA you'd think demand far outstrips supply and every yard is full to capacity year round. This is absolutely not true, living locally I would rarely see The Landing at capacity even with heavily subsidised rates, the Christmas rush not withstanding. Another argument I keep seeing for retention of The Landing hardstand is because of the specialised Roodberg Boat Lift. This has nothing to do with location and everything to do with the lift itself. Presumably this thing is looking for a new home and could be located at any yard with a slipway.
And look I'm sure you've done your research but why is it you can't use Hibiscus Marine who have a mobile crane on site and specialise in lifting multihulls? Or Fusion Marine who have a slipway, Stillwater, BBYC... you're only other option is Whangarei, even if the Roodberg lift was moved to another yard?
From a quick google these yards all remain in Auckland - maybe there is more or less? I'm sure someone here will know? Orams and Halfmoon bay have expanded massively for those that want professional services and the club run yards still exist for those that want to DIY, but you might have to do some volunteering first. (Although as far as I know the bigger yards still allow DIY, I get they are more expensive though.)
1. Hobsonville2. Orams3. Halfmoon Bay4. Pine Harbour5. Gulf Harbour6. Tamaki Marine Park7. Greenhithe (slipway)8. Te Atatu (slipway - club run)9. Devonport (slipway - club run)10. Milford (slipway - club run)11. Fusion Marine (slipway)12. Hibiscus Marine (mobile crane on site - well suited to multihulls)13. Sandspit (slipway - club run)14. Stillwater (slipway - club run)15. BBYC (slipway - club run)16. Weiti Boating Club (slipway - club run)17. Waiheke Boating Club (slipway - club run)So what you are saying, to paraphrase, is that Royal Akarana want more space.
The current users of the hardstand aren't important to Royal Akarana, and you have the connections and influence to get what you want.
Not keen on answering the question on your financial donors vested interest in the Tamaki Marine Park?
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10 hours ago, Timberwolfy said:
Lol, I'd love to know how many people were on the committee that wrote this simpering drivel.
It is very well written. And it's not been posted by a regular forum user. Looks a lot like a professional. Like a hired Communications Consultant. Or a PR specialist.
A guess that is what you get when you have a lot of vested interests working in the background.
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2 hours ago, aardvarkash10 said:
Yeah, I'm assuming the 17v reading is an error or typo. The panel may produce 17v open circuit and ahead of the regulator.
As I said above, the 17v is the solar panel voltage, the solar controller will convert it to something appropriate, like 14.2v.
My point is that if the solar controller is at 14.7 and the alternator is at 14.4, then the alternator wont be able to charge the battery, regardless of how much current it has, as the higher voltage wins. In reality I wouldn't expect a 60W solar panel to be able to consistently produce the rated power, but the comment was made to answer the OP's question, and so he can check his system set up.
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30 minutes ago, Okahu Sailor said:
In an era of declining participation and increasing compliance costs many sports clubs around the country face an uncertain future. Yacht clubs are no exception. So should they keep doing what they’ve always done with some tweaks around the edges and slip further into decline? Or make some fundamental changes to ensure a sustainable future?
Royal Akarana Yacht Club has chosen the latter. Giving up their exclusive use of their site in Okahu Bay and opening up to a variety of marine user groups along with some very generous donations the Marine Sports Centre has taken shape. Visit the site on a sunny weekend and you will immediately see its popularity. Hundreds of people using the site for many different activities, mostly but not exclusively marine related. Dinghy sailing and paddle sports being the most popular. But they have a long way to go to ensure long term survival. They have plans for national and international events which will drive participation and encourage growth in dinghy sailing (which will in turn filter sailors through to keelboats), growing their very successful learn to sail programs as well as continuing their former core activities such as offshore keelboat racing. And now that will be along side other marine sports such as Waka Ama, rather then competing against them for resources. This is in part funded by the restaurant and event centre on site, a very necessary part of ensuring a sustainable operation.
So then there is The Landing hardstand. An anomaly in Auckland it was neither club owned or fully commercial. Run by a private contractor but funded by Auckland Council for the exclusive use of a fortunate few, in a location that is no longer and probably never was particularly well suited to its use. When the consultation was opened on the hardstand’s future the Marine Sports Centre and RAYC recognised the sites huge potential as a hub for marine events, as well as turning The Landing into a space that people want to visit to further encourage growth. And yes additional storage for club boats in an age where people don’t have the means to own their own boats, or space to store them at home. (As a side note there about 60 club boats in the Marine Sports Centre and ASC boat sheds, another 30 club dinghies within the Centre footprint, 60 surfskis in two 40’ containers in the carpark, several Waka on the grass in front, 20 or so more Waka elsewhere on the site and another 40 odd members boats either on the ramp or in the back carpark. At least 200 boats in total which are all regularly used - there is demand for more and a long waiting list for very limited member storage. Restaurant storage comprises a 3m x 3m cage in the shed.)
Instead of suggesting boycotts and implying conspiracies which will only drive the sailing community apart, I would invite you to visit the site on a sunny weekend and imagine just how good it could be as a hub for marine sporting events. And maybe even recognise that increased maintenance costs for a small group of boat owners could actually be for the greater good of the sport and long term survival of one of New Zealand’s oldest yacht clubs.
Is it true the main financial donor also owns the Tamaki Marine Park and will profit financially if lower priced / DIY competition is removed?
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2 minutes ago, aardvarkash10 said:
The alternator output will swamp the solar panel output.
Effectively, your solar is a trickle charger. It's not going to impact the rest of the charge circuit in any meaningful way.
Only if it's voltage is higher. Higher current doesn't mean anything if it is pushing 'uphill' against higher voltage.
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5 hours ago, alibaba said:
I thought I understood my charging system, but now I'm not so sure....
Setup - start battery and house battery. Connected to a VSR. so- when the engine is started, the VSR 'sees' the voltage drop on the start battery, tops that up, and when it reaches full charge, now switches its attention to the house battery and charges that. So far, so good, I think. The voltage regulator has been set to 14.7V to charge the batteried.
However, due to lack of use during Covid, my ancient engine driven compressor fridge crapped out, and I have replaced it with an electric driven compressor plate. Because of the higher amp hours use, I have fitted a 60Watt solar panel, connected to the house battery. This seems to work well as well. When I come back from a weekend's use, the house battery is down a bit, but after a couple of days on the solar panel, it achieves full charge again.
But, it now occurs to me that I might have a problem. What is happening when the engine is running? The VSR brings the start battery up to full charge, but the solar panel is supplying about 0.5 amps to the house battery at a nominated 17.2Volts according to the specs.
Does this mean that the VSR will not recognise the house battery and therefore will not switch charging to the house battery, because it 'sees' 17.2v? If so, I guess I need to put a switch into the solar panel circuit to turn off the input from the panel when I'm running the engine?
So now I is confused. What do you think?
the 17.2 v is the solar panel voltage, don't panic. Your solar controller will turn it into something suitable for your batteries, i.e. 14.2v.
Short story, the highest voltage source wins. To get the current into the batts, the voltage needs to be higher than the battery voltage. Hence why batts rest at about 12.6 volts, but you charge them at 14.2 (or 14.7 or what ever).
In theory, if your solar controller and your alternator have the same charge voltage, they will both charge the batts. In reality this won't happen.
I would expect your engine alternator to do all the charging. It will have much higher current. But for this to happen it needs a slightly higher voltage than the solar. You will find solar hardly ever actually give maximum output. Angle of the sun, clouds, deteriation of panel over time, etc. Normally angle and strength of sun. If you have an MPPT solar controller you can change the set point for the charge voltage. If you have a PWM controller, it is fixed. If you are worried about it, you can set the solar charge voltage 0.1 or 0.2 below the alternator voltage. HOWEVER, you need to check the required charge voltages stated for your particular batteries, and make sure you are giving them what they need.
Note that a 60w panel is in that grey space where it is not really big enough to charge house batts in use in a day, but is way bigger than what you need for a float charge. I'm mentioning this as it is possible to over charge your batteries with solar. Most MPPT solar controllers will give 2 hrs of 'bulk charge' before they drop over to a float charge. This cycle starts at the start of every day, so it is possible to over charge them. There are a bunch of ways around that, but the first point is to know about it / be aware of it. Fancy Victron charges assess the resting voltage at the start of the day and adjust the bulk charge time. But the more common EPever charges just give 2 hrs of full ergs every day. To get around that, I went for a smaller 20 watt panel which gives max of about 1 amp. Having just put in moonbeam $$$ new batteries, I'm monitoring everything with a battery monitor and a data logger on my EPever solar controller.
As a note, you can get the EPever data loggers locally for $80 or via Aliexpress for about $40. It is very cheap insurance for monitoring your system while not on the boat, so you can ensure you are not over charging your batts, and also see they are not going low charge and getting sulphated.
Wonder what happened.
William C Daldy.
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I'd be interested to go and have a look at the engine room just as a static display. That isn't possible at the moment is it?