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Noting also that the professional rescue services were stood down, to leave people to die slowly and painfully on the island. It was the private operators that got in and saved lives. This point was not widely covered by the MSM. I was disgusted by that. And then of course Worksafe come in and prosecute them. Rescue helicopters from all over the upper north island were dispatched (as per MSM coverage), then all parked up and Whakatane aerodrome and shut down. Then MSM went on to say how many were rescued, giving the implication they were rescued by rescue services. What we have here

Worksafe only brought the prosecution because 22 people died, and Worksafe got caught out not doing their job. The fact that those operators were only involved in the rescue on the day has nothing to do with it. The key point is that Worksafe only did something after the disaster. My prior point is that, if they were an effective regulator, they would be doing things before the disaster.

Erm, not following you there. 22 people died. Nothing pro-active about that. Or have I misunderstood what your are on about?

1 knot of tide in North Channel shifts 35 million litres of water an hour. To make some basic assumptions, peak tidal flow of 2 knots, and obviously slack water of zero knots, an average tidal flow over a day is probably not going to be far off 1 knot. You are talking in the order of 840million litres a day of water flowing through North Channel. But don't worry, it is us boaties anchoring that is spreading the caulerpa. Idiots.

Don't forget MPI is what used to be MAF. Think meat inspectors and certification of our meat for exports. Robotically follow a rule book, regardless of outcomes. Biosecurity NZ appears to be the sub-silo more responsible for this kind of thing. In terms of fishing or anchoring bans in the Gulf, that is going to cause a lot of trouble. I would expect extensive ignorance and active disobedience. Other than media sound-bites, there is no justification for the level of control and loss of public utility. The sound bite is "boats have spread this by their anchor chains". The reality is the moo

I see that Stuff story dropped this one line from the MPI press release: "Divers found small 20 centimetre to 30 centimetre patches of the seaweed in the North Channel, north-west of Kawau. Finding exotic Caulerpa in another area of Tāmaki is disappointing but not unexpected given the nature of the seaweed. Wonder why the wouldn't mention it was found in North Channel? Very strong tidal flows there, and very few, if any boats ever anchor there. If it was found in Bon Accord then the propoganda about boats spreading it might be true. Not so much when its found in the location wit

When I was into my Alpine Mountaineering I always felt a bit inadequate due to a fear of heights (or at least being uncomfortable with a lot of air under my heals). A wise man told me a fear of heights is a good thing, It is what keeps you alive when climbing mountains.

Haha, neither. It is a vote for people and organisations to do their job properly. We don't have a Workplace health and safety regulator. All we have is a prosecutor. If someone dies in a workplace accident, Worksafe comes along and launches a prosecution against those that aren't dead. It is near physically impossible to be found 'not guilty' if Worksafe prosecute you, by fact that someone is dead. The charge is always 'failing to provide a safe work environment'.* This focus is entirely reactive and punitive. I would argue an effective regulator would be dealing with issues pr

So you've rightly pointed out that NZ has some of the highest rates of workplace accidents and deaths in the developed world. You've also pointed out that Worksafe haven't laid charges in relation to the 22 deaths on White Island, but are laying charges related to procedural matters prior to those deaths. Given those two points, I think it is clear that our workplace health and safety regulatory environment, or our regulator is not fit for purpose. It took 22 deaths for Worksafe to wake up and do its job in regulating the entire White Island industry. Not just the tour operators

What Worksafe failings did Worksafe apologies for when they laid charges against the, what is it, 13 other entities in relation to White Island?

Watch what you wish for. We could have that here. But you would have to fund it. And me. And every other boatie on here. Perfect excuse for a new buearcacy. Fundamentally, we don't have any issues in NZ that aren't already addressed by existing rules and regulations. What this thread is about, the Paihia ferry crash, there are already clear and abundant rules to avoid incidents like that. Just remember, murder is illegal, but we still have murders. Just because you make more rules and regulations doesn't mean people will suddenly stop doing dumb sh*t.

Haha, wasn't on a seasickness medication was he? A bunch of mates chartered a cat in Cuba. First night out was a bit lumpy as there was a cyclone to the north of the country, we were on the south heading towards the Bay of Pigs. One of the non-sailing girls was prone to seasickness so I gave her some Stugeron, a fairly stiff seasickness pill from the UK (not allowed to get it in NZ). She was having a great time. Almost concerningly so. When she started going on about the wild horsemen riding alongside us we thought we'd better carry her downstairs to her cabin. That same trip we had a clo

All these stories of professional crews on large commercial vessels acting like c*nts only reinforces my point about the 'might is right' rule. Whilst it is not a formal legal rule, it is clearly both a law of nature and a law of physics. Small sailing boats just need to stay well away from commercial shipping. Ideally so far away that the colregs never come into play in the first place. I think it is fair to assume any commercial fishing boat anywhere is NOT keeping a proper lookout. On the odd occasion they are, bonus. But if I had a bottle of whisky for every story I heard from so

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I understand you are correct in the technicalities of the rules IT. I guess what I am saying is a combination of your two points above. A prudent skipper will just stay out of the way of heavy shipping. The long extension of this is to meet his colregs requirements of avoiding a collision. I'm yet to see a situation where a yacht can't maneuver out of the way of a large ship, but the same large ship can maneuver out of the way of that yacht* I verbalise this 'prudent skipper' behaviour (to just stay well clear of heavy shipping) as the 'might as right' rule. *I have two e

This is when we need one of those youtibue videos of a sailing yacht getting ran down by a very large ship, cause they were sailing, or on starboard or something, but overlooked all the other rules like the shipping channels, were under pilot, RAM etc etc. I understand exactly what you are saying IT, esp with regards to the stand on vessel, but when you are in a yacht that can spin on a dime, looking at how to pass a cruise ship that takes 3nm to turn, I think it is far easier for everyone if you take early, obvious action to stay out of it's way, so you don't even get close enough to bec

Interestingly, when I was doing my Yachtmaster qualification, I quoted the "might is right" rule and got failed. I was convinced there was a rule that you had to give way to anything over 500t. I think it was an Auckland Harbour bylaw. Noting I was doing my Yachtmaster in the UK, so the instructor wouldn't have heard about in if it was an Auckland rule. I'm still firmly convinced you should give way to anything over 500t. While its not a rule as per the colregs, I'm fairly sure its a rule according to the laws of physics.

Deflating and inflating regularly wont hurt them at all. Things that might puncture or rip the PVC will, which is possibly a greater risk on how you roll them up, where you store them and what you inflate them on (i.e. gravel, instead of grass). Overall, deflating them and storing them so that they are out of the sun will be far far better than leaving them inflated in the sun. Good practice to have a brush / broom handy when you roll them up, so you can get off any grit, sand or stones that might rub / chaff the pvc when it is rolled up and squashed into a storage spot somewhere.

I'm not really following why you are upset? You've put a new AF over an existing ablative. Ablatives are designed to fall off. What has happened? Its fallen off? Then, in other patches you've applied the new AF direct to original undercoat. Does this mean you haven't used an epoxy barrier / tie coat such as interprotect? Again, if I've read your post correctly,and you've applied an ablative AF direct to glass (over wood), why are you surprised you are having problems? You need an expoxy sealer / tie coat. You haven't mentioned why you changed from Altex #5 to Warpaint? you

Are you talking about a ferro dinghy here? Might have some merits for a dinghy permanently in the water.

Note that a lot of fishing boats are 'actively' anchoring and fishing. This is usually in dodgy spots like trying to stray line onto reefs etc. Or in the middle of busy shipping areas, South end of Tiri Channel, Motuihe Channel. In that context I think keeping a proper lookout at anchor is entirely appropriate. At anchor at the back end of Bon Accord at 3 am not so much. Considering 98% of recreational boaties are fisho's in fizz boats, it is entirely likely the numpties 'interpreting' this rule have completely overlooked the fact that there is a small number of boaties that sleep on

My cheap PVC dink is lasting very well. But it is stored out of the sun and weather (in a dinghy locker). I think its 3 to 5 yrs old. What I can say is, based on talking to the supplier at the boat show, the replacement price has doubled. So based on the current rate of inflation, how old does that make it? 6 months? If left in the sun, these ones go to sh*t very quickly. Also, sunblock softens the plastiziers in the PVC. If you lather the sproglets in sunblock and then all jump in the dink to go to the beach, it gets all over the tubes. There are 3 solutions, wash the dinghy down wi

Sorry, I didn't read past this bit. I don't want to use anything YNZ has. Not the RRS. Not the Handicapping system. I want to be a member and use the assets of the Weiti BC, the Club rooms, moorings, hand stand and haulout. Currently YNZ have jacked the system so that for me, as a cruiser with a young family, I have to subsidise their 5 ringed circus. Currently it is not possible to be a member of a 'boating' club and not pay a large levy to YNZ. If they were doing any advocacy for common or garden variety boaties, then so be it, but they aren't. What is worse is they just pay lipser

I don't think that is the best analogy CD. YNZ is not a club. It is a National Body, or otherwise referred to as a National Authority, esp with respect to category ratings and a national handicaping system. Originally it was a Federation of Yacht Clubs, put together to represent those clubs on a national scale. It is simply not doing that now. At best, it is an extension of High Performance Sport NZ. Something needs to change. Many people have said it. Nothing has happened yet. Keen to hear your ideas.

You are struggling with reading comprehension aren't you? Lets see if I can simplify the explanation. Large club has 500 members. Only 20 want to race. Club wants to run a race programme, but would prefer not to hand over $30k p.a. to YNZ for the privilege. Existing club sets up a 'paper club' for the purposes of running racing. Said paper club can be domiciled in the premises of large existing club. Large existing club stops paying $30k p.a. to YNZ. Small paper club consisting of 20 members affiliates to YNZ, pays approx $600 for the privilege. Job done.