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  1. 14 hours ago, lateral said:

    Obviously the needle on your AC interest gauge is barely flickering.

    It lives purely in hope a race may break out but having sat thru 1.7 sails and not seeing one it's been consigned to the background, if possible, just in case something does actually happen.

    Maybe if I'd taken more attention yesterday I wouldn't be getting the sh*t I am today, bugger!!!!

    Apologies to the US lady YT commentator for questioning her heritage and ability to use a calendar ;)

  2. They face gobsmacking regulatory related costs us recreational don't.

    A lot of that regulation demands using $1000 dohicckys when a $100 dohiccky would do exactly the same job. The difference between the 2 dohicckys is often only a sheet of paper.

  3. Found a couple of hours with unusually nothing pressing that needed doing so thought I'd finish tweaking the DR200 from a learner machine to being my farm bike. Out to cave and thought the AC so fired up the tablet thingy, found You Tube, searched AC Live, cool 7mins to race start.

    Got back wheel ready, 2 mins to the race, bang and off they go to no surprise, ETNZ limp, Prada smart and off they go. Finished putting brakes in and wheel back on with AC in the background, Prada tales out the 1st race in a spookily similar manner to what they did yesterday.

    Plod on with tuning brakes and the next race is starting. Stop for 3 mins to pop a new beer and see who wins the race. Prada f**ks up bit time in what looked like how they described yesterdays cock up. Gezzz dudes, 2 days in a row you lemons but then so did Eremites I suppose.

    This AC is getting repetitive, todays sailing was so similar to the odd bits I saw yesterday but then it is all a bit one dimensional so that shouldn't be a huge surprise.

    Listing to the YT commentary team and zero doubt who they have as winner already plus they are going hard out to get the world record for how many times you can say the word Kiwi per minute. The stupid woman calls it Saturday twice, obviously struggling with times zones.

    Come into the house for a feed and said to the Wa 'Good run? You missed little in todays sailing, it was very much like yesterdays'.

    She comes back 'No it was abandoned, no wind',

    'Bollocks I just watched it',

    'You can't of it was postponed',

    'Bollock I did!!!!'

    "No you can't of'

    'Next run take more liquids will you, you're obviously hallucinating'

    One minute later the TV news kicked in. The 1st headline 'AC postponed due to no wind'

    Oh crap!!

    I turn to look at the Wa and yeap, see a face chocker with pleasure telling me I will hear about this again.............. and again.......... and again.............


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  4. 2 hours ago, Clipper said:

    My god there are some boring old men with selective memories. 
    I know you think you recall close racing with lead changes and exciting starts, but that is such rose tinted glasses nonsense.

    IACC racing was in general so boring it puts insomniacs to sleep. Sure there was some epic racing, but in general, win the start, win the race. Just like now.

    go on youtube and watch. My god its dull

    You obviously don't understand what so many are missing.

    But that's OK as the AC organisers don't either.


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  5. 37 minutes ago, Vivaldi said:

    What are class 1 and class 2 splices? Is it different techniques?

    Oh yes very much so and it is very important to get it right especially when using fancy cores. By 'fancy cores' I means dyneemas, spectras, vectrans, kevlars, PBO and those fibres NOT the older school Polyester, Nylon, Polyprop.

    There are many ropes for many applications made many ways so the following is a bit general and with boats and halyards as the ropes intended end use.

    The fancy cores are Class 2 as they are all about the core, the cover is only there for handing and pretty not strength. All the strength and goodness is the core only.

    The older school no fancy are Class 1. The cover is for handling and pretty plus it is a structural member so has a very significant input into the ropes load carrying. Generally speaking 50% of the load is taken by the cover and 50% by the core.

    In a Class 1 splice you splice the cover into the core as each takes 50% of the load so out the end comes a full strength splice, less the allowance for bending and twisting the fibers in the splice which does reduce strength a little. Industry standard is to work on 10-15% lose but a good splicer will usually get less lose than that.

    A Class 2 splice is a core into the core splice. So when we splice those we extract the core and splice it back into itself before tucking all of that way under the cover to make it look purdy.

    If we did a Class 2 splice on a old school class 1 rope all we will be doing is torturing ourselves as we would end up with a nice splice that has the same strength as a C1 when we could have got the same by using a far easier to do C1 splice.

    But if we do a C1 splice in a fancy cored C2 rope we'll have an easy splice but one with only the maximum strength of what the cover alone can hold. So in say Addems 12mm Dyneema halyard a C1 splice would make those halyard no stronger than bog standard polyester double braid. Addem's halyard strength will drop from 1000's to 100's of kilos and all the money spend on the fancy was a total waste of time.

    We do regularly get ropes in that have busted due to someone using a C1 splice on a C2 rope. Sadly some of those splices people paid for.

    How do you tell if your ropes got a c1 or C2 splice? Most of the time you can't, a good splicer maybe be able to feel how the splice is constructed under the cover and work it out but unless you pull one apart it's near impossible. If the splice is uncover then it's easy as splicing naked core is a form of a C2 splice anyway.

    Doing a C2 is tricky and not to be taken lightly as if you cock it up you have strength issues and may just be buggering $100's of rope. Class 1's are easier for most and the best to start with, being sorted on those will make learning a C2 far easier. 

    Some ropes are easy to splice, some are near impossible and there is all those in the middle. So a good splicer will be able to 'feel' the individual ropes and usually know going in if it is going to a be a prick or not and adjust their technique around that.

    Beware of You tube and the interweb. There are a sh*t load of good looking videos and info that will take you down the wrong path and into the danger zone as they are just wrong. If you're hunting for instructions take some time to suss who is behind any you find, keep clear of randoms unless they have good verifiable credentials.

    Note here the above is 'general' in nature and there are other variables like parallel cores, triple braids and of course the lovely product being sold by the likes of Bumblings that has a core made from rolled up dishcloths.


  6. 23 hours ago, Addem said:

    So, Pork Chop has 7 x 12mm halyards. What do you reckon the weight saving would be is you did us a tranche of these laminated replacement?

    P measurement is about 14m

    DTwo is a bit light and now has me thirsty which is a little dis-concerting mid morning...but I am building a new CRM file today for April 1 so bored shitless is the theme of the day :)

    I'll crunch some numbers for you on Monday. I build a programme thingy I can run options thru and it spits out all manner of good sh*t including weights.

    I tweaked my 930 halyards a little, not huge, and took a little time to pick the right string for each application. The new set was 2.9kg less than the old set. When you have a genuine noodle rig 2.9 is a lot.

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  7. Interesting watching the media and it struggling with it all. Lots of 'Oh gosh how earth shattering good Emerites must be to get back in the game by winning R4'. Err....hello!!

    While I expect the procession to go on and if it follows the first 4 races Emerites will win the AC, they have favoured starting side in the last race, ya just never know what may happen so don't lose all hope a race may yet break out.

    I do want one to and I want it to happen in R5, after all the time, effort, pain, vast sums of coin that could have been used for social good and the being pissed around we all have to live with due to this f**king cup we want a f**king battle on the track not this nautical version of that early computor game Pong we are currently being feed.

    They do seem to be aware of the publics growing realisation they can miss bugger all of Shortland Street as all they need to do is watch the AC start. But can they do anything about it? I can't see how without admitting they have a hint too much lemon in the current recipe.

    But I watched 1.5 full races, gave up 1/2 way thru R4, this time which is different than last time when I intentionally went in to the Gobi desert and up to Siberia to avoid it. So Mr AC, you have covid to thank for at least one spectator (part time only)

  8. 2 minutes ago, Addem said:

    It doesn’t make sense that once a boat starts to gaP off they extend and extend. But they are supposedly similar in speed. So you’d expect the gaps to remain similar. we have extended 75m each leg. Is that a speed advantage we couldnt use in the first race because we had to do some many manoevres?

    Yeah it sort of does. They are speed boats not manoeuvring boats so get clear ahead and you can dictate where you go which gives you the ability to get your speed where you want it. The following boat can't do that as it has to try and keep clear air while search for a passing lane, all of which costs speed.

  9. 16 hours ago, Fish said:

     the likes of Grant Robertson are politically astute enough to know that money talks. If there is sufficient revenue from these boats, I would have thought things would be easier to get them in.

    Not too sure I'd agree with that.

    This BOLD case stinks of dodgy big time so I have no problem with it being excluded purely for just being a slippery tosser if nothing else.

  10. The Govt who is still in election mode and is already twitching hard due to allowing too much dross in which are displacing the genuinely important and those with genuine needs. It'll be well aware having a pile of superboats sitting in the harbour is not a vote winner.

  11. 1 hour ago, armchairadmiral said:

    Hi  KM....would you hoist a  crew (or yourself )up a spliced main halyard as described here.... ;4 to 6 to 8 ?

    A crew, not a problem. Me, hell No :)

    Na, if done well using the right gear the only problem will be the voice in your head screaming 'TOO SMALL get me off this now!!!'

    We commonly make halyards and other things by laminating like Carpe has and often for the same reason. small is light and plenty strong but a right bitch to hang on to with cold hands or existing jammers so we layer other covers on top to bulk it out where needed. Sometimes do that to increase chafe protection, sometimes just for aesthetics. Some of our most Gucci sh*t is going into office and shop fit outs, not boats, which we find a bit weird. But we love that as yachties squeak when they walk the tight buggers where the mobs specifying the fit outs aren't spending their own money. Govt and Councils are even better again ;)

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  12. 52 minutes ago, chariot said:

    Do you have to splice Spectra. Need to replace the wire to Kiwifurl drum which pulls back the spring loaded locking pin. Can I just tie the ends off without splicing.

    Talking UHMwPE in general, splicing is preferred as this fibre and knots are knot mates. Tie a bowline in this material and BOOM your strength drops about 50-60% instantly. So given the option splice. But in saying that many use the product not for strength but for their very low to no stretch so if that's what it's about knots make no difference to that. So Mr C you'll need to suss how much strength you need verse the size of line. If the required strength is pushing the lines break load then splice, if there is a big gap then tieing a knot is fine.


    UHMwPE = Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene

    Spectra and Dyneema are brand names of a UHMwPE fibre made by Honeywell (some by Toyobo in Japan) and Royal DSM respectively. They are big in NZ as we are a tiny country so one or 2 players can dominate which closes the door to other options like Tokilon which is made by a mob called Mitsi thingy whotsit. These are all manufacturing very good constantly improving fibres.

    Under those brand names we get rope manufacturer ones like the most well known Dynex, now called Dynice as they lost a court case over who owned the name. Then there is Armare with Superround, Speedplus and a few other variations, Marlow with D12 and a few others, Fineline with Advantage, Samson with a shed load. These are ropes made using assorted UHMwPE's, many being dyneema or spectra but some using what we call 'Chineema', chinese made UHMwPE's.

    Some Chineemas are fine, some a bit iffy, some utter and complete sh*t likely to kill you. In the 4x4 game many are having dyneema bust as low loads...errr, hello, you've been sold Chineema dude. Generally in the rope game reputable manufacturers will use reputable Chineemas. But we have rope manufacturers selling Chineema as Dyneema, to us that is a sign of if they are going to 'fudge' the materials what else are they willing to fudge.

    These UHMwPE ropes are Class 2 ropes. Std polyester double braids are Class 1 ropes.

    You can splice bog std Polyester using a Class 2 splice perfectly fine, fiddler than a Class 1 but will work.

    DO NOT splice a Class 2 rope using a Class 1 splice, all that does it totally negate any and all goodness the fancy core has. It also means you've just waste a shed load of coin.

  13. What I saw this morning is pretty much what I expected.

    Fast boats on a track not long enough to give enough time/room to over come even small cock ups.

    Some will like it, some won't.

  14. Spectra or UHMwPE (which Spectra and Dyneema are brand names of the flasher end of that material spectrum) cored

    Donaghys Superspeed

    Armare Speedcruise

    Maybe a pre-stretched Polyester double braid like a Armare Star. That's popular amongst the cruisers.




  15. Good point Fogg, as dodgy as the BBC New reporting has been on occasion it is spectacular in fields beyond that. Not many, if any, organisations could challenge their nature related outputs.....one on polar beers excepted. 

    On sussing NZ outlets I am struggling to find much variation in the news being reported even if there is a sh*t load of variation on the commentary around those news stories. Not that sure the Herald is as dodgy as some others but as most is paywalled there could be trash behind it.

    'NZ outlets' added just for Aard ;)

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  16. The radio is saying it's 1-1

    Did the boat that crossed the line first also cross the finish first?

    Did anything more happen than just the boats rounding marks? 

    Is 1-1 a fair scoreline?




  17. Yes I am aware of KDC's bizarre history and said fuckery. Worse than Akl I find very hard to believe considering how AKl Council and it's CCO's intentionally ignore laws, their own and Wellingtons, almost hourly.

    I have a 'cock womble prevention plan' ready, as I do with things like this. 

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  18. Many boat that were here for work had it all cancelled and the boats loaded onto the ship bound for the EU instead. Owners working on the theory if they aren't allowed in to use their boats then why leave them here.

    That has cost the industry shitloads in coin, jobs and reputation. We have had 50K odd cancelled and we'd be less than a drop in the bucket.

    The Aussie marine industries best salesmen currently is the NZ Govt. The real bad thing about this is if we allow boats to suss the other options they may find them superior to NZ's meaning we'll never see them or their mates ever again. Here in NZ we are major beneficiaries of that working in reverse.

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