Ed
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Unless you have a foil, the bottom is always going to furl tighter than the top. You just have to accept you'll need to drop it shortly after furling
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When was the last time anyone use a paper chart in anger during coastal sailing?
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A lot go down the inflated dinghy on deck route that would be used for cruising anyway
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Those things turn fast!
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30 boats, and I can see 84 bottles.... Friday night is going to be messy ????
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They should have jack stays and harnesses or linelines surely!
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Bigger berths cost per m than smaller ones to rent, but with a better use of the water as you need fewer alleys and less Marina infrastructure( or are they that much wider?). Maybe that's where the rort is actually, and the smaller boats are actually getting a good deal :/
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7-15% increase generally, last rate change was 1st of Jan 2015 by the looks of it, old rates are still up if you google.
10m seems to have got hit very hard
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22.5K in the end
Sold to someone in Manakau allegedly... anyone know more?
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but but but....they're not wearing lifejackets!
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Any time correction factor for diverse boat styles will be a lottery dependent on conditions, accurate handicapping (whether based on calculation like IRC, or an upper percentile performance band like racetrack) only really works amongst boats with generally similar designs.
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As i see it the problems for REAL GROWTH in keelboat racing in NZ
All the new boats are too expensive for current small boat particpants - thus no new class.. well there is its just 50 + foot long
All the old boats are different and people are sick of phrf racing lottery
Lots of our race results are predetermined by weather ie uphill vs downhill
Not enough windward / leeward racing.
Club handicaps worse the PHRF
Costs thousands to park your boat as needs to be close to westhaven (i do see increasing panmure fleets tho)
I cant see why offshore race changes the above at all, just adds $$$$ to the misery...
more and more racers turning to cruising... which has added benefit - you can take the kids along.
if you just want muck around in yachts and drink rum afterwards none of the above would matter..... as is all good, lots of fun etc... but as a place to park 100-200k and seriously compete in a sport... nah
That's why you need an 8.5 multihull, much cheaper to own and park, less crew, active fleet and box rule racing as well as handicap
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But how many of them have raced since?
Pacific Sundance, regularly, but did before hand
Revolution, regularly, but did beforehand
Wai Aniwa, does a bit
Result, did one ssanz race then was sold into retirement
Impact (the demon) hasen't raced since as far as I can tell
Rainbow II hasn't raced again either
So really it did nothing for the long coastal and offshore race fleets.
Go back 30 odd years and I think Result took line on the Round North Island, also did quite a few trips out to the islands! Capable boats for sure but just not used to their potential anymore....
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Undoubtedly BP, some of the best quality racing that I have done in recent years was in the One Ton Cup revisited two years ago, widely disparate boats well handicapped and every dog had his day, oh and they were by todays standards small cheap local non planing boats.
Really made us all think - and the fleet was populated heavily by sailmakers or ex sailmakers there because they wanted to be, rather than for business.....
Sorry, that one tonne cup could have been so much better. The entry bar was set way to high by forcing people to get an endorsed IRC certificate. (I think they dropped the endorsed bit in the end, but still a big cost/hassle ). The divisions those boats race in now don't have IRC fleets in NZ, only PHRF. Sundance may have one or two other around with IRC, but not many.
Also it was glorified harbour racing, there was no distance/offshore race, just the odd passage race round the gulf islands.
As for populated by sailmakers, we didn't have any on our boat, don't think sundance did either. OK Rainbow had arguably the greatest ring in crew ever assembled, Ken Fyfe was on the Lidguard Demon I think, possibly BooBoo on Wai Anwia for a couple of days, not exactly stacked though.
But where were the rest of the 1104's? What about any of the other IOR 3 boats, shadow, ex tension?? (admittedly these don't race regularly if at all these days)....complete no shows. Young Nick never showed, not quite sure why.
It was good to get out with similar sized boats(except for sundance who regulary did a horizon job as they should), but there were only 6 of us. As for cheap, I hate to think how much money was spent on Rainbow II, and a 36-38ft boats costs pretty much the same to run whether its 5 or 35 years old.
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For all the back and forth this thread has given me some interesting thoughts on reflection. Not all may agree and that is entirely their prerogative, this is just my experience and point of view. Even though my boat is over the prescribed 6. whatever metres long everyone I invited from work on the crew rum race asked for a lifejacket. They all got one, with crotch straps. But then I got to thinking about the majority of sailing I do, which is racing around the harbour on my 8.5 cat. I have a good quality life jacket on the boat yet rarely wear it. I Wonder if the better analogy is to seatbelts in a car rather than crash helmets as was purported to above. I suppose the question is how much a well fitting good quality life jacket is going to impact my sailing ability vs. not wearing one and watching my boat disappear at 15 kts without a helm.... I think I'll start wearing mine more often to be honest as the benefits trend to outweigh the downsides
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talking to our electrician on site today ( who is also an inspector) EWofs can be issued by the electrician who does the original wiring when they complete it. After that it needs to be done by a competent inspector. As has been alluded to previously, Electrical inspectors have practice areas, so there may be a limited number who can issue ewofs for boats with 12v systems.
I've had dealings with Peter Morfee on a couple of occasions, he is an incredible knowledgable but also practical guy, who basically led the writing of the electrical (safety) regulations. I'm at kind of the other end of the spectrum though developing HV supplies for underground mine sites. The updated regulations, along with the H&S act, approved code of practice and also reference to british standards that we now have to follow has me doing levels of design verification compliance and risk assessment that would drive a few on here to distraction. Ah the joys of trying to improve safety.
Worksafe's view is that if you don't comply with accepted best practice, you have to demonstrate how what you are doing achieves a similar standard of safety. And that's what the Judge will be asking you when you are in court after an accident.
It bears repeating that this stuff is law, and I suspect the memo has come from a friendly chat between the marina and worksafe clarifying where worksafe sees the marina obligations with respect to that law.
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On a side note I would have a good look at that carbo block I assume is for the jib halyard. Depending on how you tension the halyard I would think the loads are getting very close to the max fit that type when new. For static high load applications I would look at using a low friction ring instead.
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Yes, this is the usual 'govt/ local govt' game. First you bring so much compliance that it becomes impossible to use , then you use the usage statistics to justify its removal all together.
Same thing applies to the mast gantry.
I found the process to use the mast gantry fairly straightforward, pm me for details if you want
The laughable part of this is that they ate effecively creating a situation where almost no one can meet the requirements.
Combined with antifouls becoming less effective, im interested to see the end result?
Hopefully we'll see further advances in new non fouling antifouls like propspeed for hulls, they are not perfect yet, but they can only get better
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Make sure you look closely at the trailer on these boats, a lot of boats just go the couple of hundred metres from the boat park to the ramp and back again.
If you get caught with a dud, a new trailer for a boat the size you are looking at will be an easy 15K on its own (Just ask my Father in Law, he has the nicest Nolex 22 trailer in Dunedin!)
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As a counter point, the people I know with a taka cat wouldn't have anything else, can take 6 without issues, no problems with build quality, and handle like a small thunder cat. A solid floot is a lot better than the inflatable. Can't comment on how they row though
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That's the thing, there is no bid, 50th is the opening price
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Hi paxfish,
A lot of the boats here run 2 stroke 8 HP as that is the lightest motor they can carry for racing, and would be propped slightly differently.
Personally On my GBE I have a newer version of your motor with the high thurst as well. My logic is that I am happy to sacrifice a knot or two of top speed in return for very positive response while manoeuvring and the knowledge that if the weather is bad there is heaps of low speed grunt on tap to get out of a sticky situation
Cheers
Marsden Cove Marina 2017 Route 66
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Finish cutoff could be marginal for some given the forecast.
Hey Richmond... how do we know which finish line is being used?