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remember Quickcat vs Quickcat 2
https://www.taic.org.nz/sites/default/files/inquiry/documents/00-205.pdf
and the skippers were talking to each other!
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11 minutes ago, Black Panther said:
Another thought is that nearly every blue water sailor I know buys the boatvthey can afford and lives with a number of compromises.
and even with a blank cheque you still have to compromise. My dream fleet includes at least 3 different boats for differing environments
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30 minutes ago, Black Panther said:
My definition of a blue water cruiser would be one that can come through 60kn in open water without undue concern,. After that it's all a matter of personal choice.
But I do have some pet peeves.
Dinghy storage. How can any designer call a boat a bwc if the dinghy hasn't been accommodated at the design stage? Not just toss it on deck or bolt on some nasty davitts after it's been built.
At least 2 single bunks with leecloths parallel to the centerline and near the middle of the boat.
A galley from which hot food can be prepared in bad weather.
A toilet that can be used in bad weather.
and a deepish, not too big, well protected cockpit, preferably with a hard dodger. Don't like the modern trend where the helm is almost at deck level
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6 hours ago, Fogg said:
Very nice film.
Yes I wonder if there a Gulf island ripe for a similar effort?
these guys are always appreciative of support, alot of work to do there
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39 minutes ago, funlovincriminal said:
I was wondering if normal sign writing vinyl would handle the heat.
The labels are a metallic label, Marine Stainless used to get new ones printed but no idea where from.
If you can get a photo of a good one, a printer would be able to reproduce. If it is any help 4 o'clock is about 180 deg😃
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1 hour ago, harrytom said:
Have some parts arriving shortly and my understanding under $1k no fees but maybe gst Before purchase went on to govt site that gave fee structure.
if it not coming via Youshop you may well be lucky and not be charged GST if it under $1,000 total (goods + freight), there seems to be some flexibility on this with customs. Let us know how you get on.
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15 hours ago, Island Time said:
There normally is. Any despite your issues with one inspector, most are reasonable. Try Graham Brown, local here at GH. Very reasonable in my experience.
Graham Brown was on the ICNZ webinar call and provided pictures of the window shutters he had fitted to his own yacht, Minaret - an early 70's Lidgard.
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3 hours ago, ex Elly said:
The problem with Yanmar is that they lock down their sales by region, so they can charge higher prices in some regions, and prevent prevent people buying direct from the cheaper regions. The cheapest parts I found were US East Coast (Annapolis area), but they will not ship outside that area.
So I had to set up an account with an east coast shipping company, then get them to send to Portland, then get Youshop.co.nz to ship here.
How did your landed cost work out? Youshop's postage has become rather expensive now they have subcontracted the freight to one of the courier companies.
I have bought Yanmar parts from http://www.bayshoremarineengines.com/ in Annapolis in the past, when visiting for the boatshow, and agree their prices are excellent.
I am going to get prices from the Oregon dealer to see how they stack up, and no issue with shipping as the Youshop forwarding service is in Oregon
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4 hours ago, chariot said:
That is if you are talking to practical people.
This is the inspectors list
https://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/resources/ynz-safety-inspectors-list
and there is great mix of sea time and boat design/building experience, not clip board carrying bureaucrats. Certainly my experience of several safety inspections has been that of common sense and practicality from the inspectors (including one inspection where Mr Fossil had no objection to undertaking the inspection while we were out on the harbour calibrating the instruments).
I think the issue here is the setting of the rules and I do feel YNZ do not engage enough with their "customers".
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1 hour ago, CarpeDiem said:
Anything worth sharing?
The discussion was basically about rule 13 and its window shutter requirements. The key advice from Angus was that, even though the rule says you shall have fitted shutters, they may be prepared to approve a boat without them providing you can prove they have been designed as part of the structure (not just filling in the cutout), the current installation is in "as new" condition and that the boat's designer will certify this. 2 examples given where dispensation has been given were Elliott's Tourers and Ron Given's cats. To be dealt with on a case by case basis thru your Cat 1 inspector
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27 minutes ago, Fogg said:
Be interested to hear what your experience is buying direct like this in terms of final landed cost for a part and time to arrive (compared to buying locally)?
I recently bought a small but essential part for Fogg - not going to get too specific because I don’t want to name names - I went through the main NZ agent who told me it was going to take 2-3 weeks coming in from Asia. I ordered and started waiting. Then lockdown came. I tried contacting said agent but was told they weren’t officially operating. Then I discovered they had ordered it through another NZ business who was actually doing the importing. So that’s 2x ‘middle-men’ in the picture already here in NZ without counting what’s going on at the other (originating) end.
This seems like unnecessary duplication. If you’re a main NZ agent for a major global brand surely you should set yourself up to be capable ordering & importing parts yourself from overseas not outsourcing that too?
Whenever we challenge the comparative cost of stuff in NZ we get fed sob stories about importing costs and unidentified ‘middle-men’ etc. But it looks like NZ operators aren’t exactly helping themselves at this end of the supply chain?
In days gone by when Power & Marine was the NZ Yanmar distributor they sourced parts directly from the big distribution centre in Singapore and the public could buy from them in their Beaumont St outlet (the old Whiting Engineering), so there was effectively one markup.
Then the Aussies got in on the act with Power Equipment taking over as the Australasian distributor. Also they now do not have a retail outlet, you have to buy from one of the dealers. So now when you buy that Filter/Impeller/ what have you, the ticket is being clipped three times, by Power Equipment Australia, Power Equipment NZ and the Dealer.
I am currently looking at ordering a box of filters and other bits and pieces from a dealer in USA. Remember the pricing I mentioned previously on a replacement heat exchanger - landed tax paid from USA ~NZ$2,800, vs locally sourced $4,600+gst.
Re filters, I have been warned by James Mobberly (Moon's) that it is safer to stick with Yanmar OEM oil filters, the problem being that you cannot be sure if the aftermarket filters have exactly replicated the internal pressure relief and bypass valving - he did not see an issue going with aftermarket fuel filters. I did discuss this with IT, he felt aftermarket were OK
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decide for yourself if you think the footage is real but it sure sounds/looks great
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50 minutes ago, funlovincriminal said:
Can anyone tell me who in NZ can supply spare/extra/replacement housings for thru hulls?
Transplanting Electronics from one boat to another and sadly the Speed transducer housing doesn't look like it will survive the operation.
From what I can see online its the tapered P314 Housing I need, Airmar part number is 33-092-01
Can't see anything on Lustys website.
have a hunt around on the web, here is one option
https://www.bluebottlemarine.com/products/airmar-housing-for-p314.html
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6 minutes ago, Fogg said:
ICNZ? As in Insurance Council of New Zealand?
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18 minutes ago, BOIGuy said:
Sort of thing that should be coming from YNZ for everyone don't you think?
I guess it comes down to the age old question do you wait for something to happen or ask for it/make it happen.
I had a small part to play in this ICNZ event, I had some contact with Viki Moore soon after she bought ICNZ and when she asked about ideas for events and guest speakers I suggested, knowing she is on the YNZ board, getting Angus along for a discussion about the rule changes.
I will ask Viki if it is possible to post a recording of the Webinar on the ICNZ site and possibly YNZ's
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On 31/07/2021 at 12:48 PM, Fogg said:
Hah! Tbh I thought we’d covered the windows thing - the general consensus seems to be it’s a nuts idea which many folks aim to avoid by various means ranging from discussions with inspectors right through to registering offshore in a fit of pique - hence the thread drift into other emotive areas of regulation in NZ.
I’m still debating whether it’s easier to re-register in Cook Islands or repaint my transom…
ICNZ are running a webinar with Angus Willison this evening on the rule changes, members only. It will be interesting to hear what he has to say
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12 hours ago, funlovincriminal said:
Press ganged some bored locked down kids into linbiding the antifoul off my 1020 rudder on Friday only to find it has at some stage been faired with polyester/lightweight fairing compound and had blisters for Africa. Nothing that a planer and a weekend couldn't sort!
Damn thing had more lumps and hollows than room full of camels anyway so I'll call it a win. 👍🏽
looks like the Farr office had a standard rudder design in those times which they just scaled up and down, my Farr 46
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9 hours ago, Deep Purple said:
She's a colourful night tonight. Blowing dogs off chains over here
Can't imagine what it's like in NOLA. A few clips circulating that make me wonder how any man made structure can survive it.
48 kts at Tiri, 46 at Channel Is 0840
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its notable the number of ships anchored off Tauranga (10) vs the 2 off Auckland. Have the shipping companies given up on Auckland, or at Tauranga in anticipation of their going L3 for a faster turnaround?
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18 hours ago, aardvarkash10 said:
In an old Saraband, there is nothing fancy to interface with! Ultimately, the OpenPlotter will do AIS, plotter, and some environmental including wind, depth, air and water temp.
In the meantime while I am waiting for some parts for the Pi, I tried OpenCPN on a very old e-machine notebook. Its running Ubuntu 16.04 as an operating system, not a lot else on it.
How did you load it on to Ubuntu? I tried loading CPN on a Laptop running Linux and could not get it to recognise the files.
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19 hours ago, Island Time said:
Yep, starlink and a couple of others are coming, and look like they might give proper broadband anywhere, at reasonable costs. That will certainly change the nature of cruising…
yeah, it will be even harder than ever to get the crew on the night watches to keep a lookout ...🤣
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8 hours ago, waikiore said:
Yes that is the always tie up in four line bay spec I imagine. Otherwise a nice looking wooden Kiwi style boat-but dont try putting a 4JH110 through a saildrive unless you like replacing the leg each year.
Typical USA, overpowering yachts. A standard 4JH5 (non turbo) is all a yacht of that size needs
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If you want to see how a Beneteau goes together, and comes apart, have a look at Expedition Evans.
Anyone thinking about buying one of those, or its relatives, should watch a few of these first
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46 minutes ago, Fogg said:
I can only speak for GH Marina which is not locked off and allowing owners to visit their boat briefly to check all ok, lines secure etc. But no extended visits or non-essential activity eg if they spot you doing maintenance work you’ll be asked to leave. And obviously no movements of the boat. If you can’t get to your boat but are worried you can ask Marina security to check it for you. This has all been clearly communicated to berth holders via email.
Advice from Sandspit is marina closed, no access to boats. Staff will check boats. So rather more rigid that GH
Defining a blue-water cruiser
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the twin rudders are another example of compromise - the current trend of wide sterned production boats (following IMOCA trends) have an issue with a centre rudder lifting out of the water at a moderate angle of heel, (unless the rudder is placed well forward), so the solution has been to adopt twin rudders. The IMOCA boats (not sure about Volvo) typically have kick up rudders and most carry a spare in case of hitting something.