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On 14/04/2023 at 8:03 PM, Ex Machina said:
It’s a trophy not a Boston whaler and not a launch either . Heavy solid boats and it shows when you look at the difference in damage to either vessel .
The vessel is a Boston Whaler Conquest 305 and it would appear the boat is built like the proverbial brick out house considering the relative damage to the vessel compared to that of the ferry.
I am guessing there may be some delamination below that gel coat though.
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I find it ironic that they want to ping us the responsible boat owners while ignoring the commercial shipping coming and going with infestations on a hull 50-100 times the size of your average yacht.
And they dump ballast water spreading the crap far faster than we could ever do.
Not helped by the commercial pressures applied by commercial operators to continue to operate in council environments.
I'm thinking it would be better to target the commercial end users; lets face it there are tens of thousands of them so paying cents on the dollar wouldn't be a big deal.
The average boatie on the other hand seems fair target the council seeks to shift the load to us, while taking away options for haul outs amongst other things and now they want inspect suspect hulls, they could start with all of the obviously neglected weed farms scattered around the mooring fields.
Of course they know there's no money at the end of that option.
Its B.S. there needs to be some major pushback.
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That Westhaven microburst clip if you look at the upper right you see a 140’ sailing yacht get its spreaders wet.
The force of the hit broke several dock lines.
One person on board , an engineer as I recall got the vessel off the dock and anchored in the fairway while they sorted things out.
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16 hours ago, Priscilla II said:
What a tosser Mellars couldn't give a flying fish for those who risked their lives to save his unappreciative hide.
When approached by the Herald for comment on the rescue and the lengths authorities went to save him, Mellars said: “I don’t give a rat’s arse about the rescue, and I have nothing to say to you.”
Ingrate.
Deserves a visit from Karma.
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Hey Guys
Went with HDI Marine in Vancouver WA USA received. the replacement part and gasket today
Good quality in Stainless identical to original cast not Stainless.
Ordered 28th Jan arrived today 3 Feb picked the second or third shipping option which was USD 76 total cost including shipping almost exactly 400 NZD total, very Happy.
Ovlov wanted 767 NZD for a replacement non stainless part.
Seriously, why would you.
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Possibly Banks Peninsula :
The thriving “Bay Harbour” community of Brookhaven to Akaroa
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Hey guys awaiting some local fab shop prices.
HDI from the link above appears Canadian?? Right??
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Thanks Sloop and everyone else for your well considered replies. I am leaning toward a stainless replacement, will get some quotes together and see where to from here.
MCP that website is a good find a stainless elbow at £225 works out to NZD 430 plus the shipping and handling will look into that furher.
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Ran the engine- a Volvo D2-40 and got the overheat alarm so ended up daisychaining up the system, water pump good, heat exchanger slightly blocked now removed and cleaned but when I checked the exhaust elbow too it was half blocked with cruddy calsified carbon.
Soaked it overnight in acetone but appears to have done sweet FA
Ovlov want moonbeams for a replacement ($ 767.00) surprising no one here, but I'm thinking the elbow is really a flawed design and I'll be faced with another elbow a few years down the track.
As most of you know the heat exchanger raw salt water enters the exhaust via an external jacket and swirls with the gases, there is a significant build up of crud for about 40mm below the water entry point but interestingly there is build up 40mm above (Uphill) the water entry point also which only leaves an 85mm horizontal run to the engine manifold
I'm thinking I may replace with a fabbed stainless with the heat exchanger water entering just a little further down, anyone done this?
I'm looking for feedback.
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We sought shelter in Orokawa Bay in BOI for those couple of days, gave good shelter and flat water but it was blowing dogs off chains there, I could not contemplate going out for a fishing trip it was not pretty.
Another thing, I wonder if these guys where reporting "apparent wind" at the time of the incident, they were running under power with the breeze and the survivors reporting the breeze had dropped to around 10 knots which would make sense if you're travelling 15-20 knots in those conditions.
Turn that vessel into the breeze and its a completely different story as many of us know.
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1 hour ago, JBNZ said:
Great thanks - yup thats the same one. Seems to be a German Frers 50 something called "Merry Thought" ?
There was a number of very well put together racing yachts called Merrythought out of Annapolis owned by Jack King the biggest I recall was about 62ft they raced East Coat of US and Caribbean , including Pineapple Cup, don't know if this one is from the same stable but it was a very good well run program, that might be a good place to start.
Most of the 50's had a single large diameter wheel for helm, this twin wheel setup maybe a subsequent improvement.
The boats were light and fundementally empty inside good inshore coastal racing but would probably need more work to survive a bad Sydney Hobart.
Thats my ten cents.
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Cheap yachts are not cheap ever.
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Be careful, some of the loads can get dramatic. Had my neighbor recently winching a Bonito powerboat onto a trailer and the hook at the end connecting the wire to the boat failed suddenly, the recoil from the wire pierced his artery on his winching arm just below his shoulder. Fortunately a Dr nearby- he ended up in a chopper to Middlemore. from Omaha!
When it's getting harder to winch- its not necessarily a good idea to winch harder- a lower friction solution like IT is suggesting might be wise.
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On 12/04/2022 at 9:29 AM, waikiore said:
Actually Wheels for a change you are way off the mark, most (90% plus) production boatbuilding is still Polyester resin. Since the seventies we have known about the failures of these laminates and consider the main two types used differently, isothalic and orthothalic resins. These are both inferior and cheaper and less corrosion resistant than Vinylester-but much easier for the average yard to deal with. Vinylester chemically has more in common with some epoxies.
So we are left with a number of yards that care about the longevity of their product and happiness of their clients who use a Vinylester tie coat (often in tissue) behind the gelcoat forming a barrier to prevent corrosion of the main laminate by hydrolysis. .
Mostly I agree, My understanding of the primary purpose of the tissue behind the Gel coat was to prevent "print" of the fiberglass substrate through the gel coat layer, print is where in a certain light you could see the pattern of the fiberglass mat used in the layup through the outer gel coat layer, although I agree it could also provide a barrier to the somewhat porous gel coat allowing moisture to wick into the substrate over time.
I would add sometimes you do have to dig deeper for instance the epoxy versions of Hanses are only epoxy below the waterline the early ones were polyester above, not sure if they have now changed to vinylester but hopefully they have.
Early osmosis was almost exclusive to chopped strand layups with lots of air voids where trapped stryenes would eventually react with moisture allowed in by the largely permeable gel coat layer.
Latterly poor layup leaving poor resin saturation and air voids because laminators were poorly paid and trained became a more prevalent problem- the oil crisises in the 70s had boatbuilders trying to stretch more expensive resins further which led to the use of core materials we can expound ad infinitum from there because of poor core materials (ie) balsa with no proper sealing around thru hull fittings the list goes on.....my ten cents.
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I like my manual inflatable harness combo and find it provides much more freedom than a bulky life jacket.
I do not wear it always but certainly if I have to leave the safety of the cockpit in more sporty conditions.
Like everything out of sight is out of mind- the CO2 cartridges need regularly checked as do the little plastic sacrificial bit designed to provide resistance to a accidental discharge-the auto ones have have a soluble trigger device, you would be amazed at the state some of these bits can get to and the vest still look 'normal'
Used to service all manner of them and frequently found canisters that had been partially pierced rendering them useless and in one case a racing powerboat driver and his navigator asked us to service theirs found both canisters empty and the manual trigger devices had clothes pins inserted effectively disabling the devices from ever triggering. That was an eye opener. The drivers complexion did change when the problem was pointed out.
Have four on board two dedicated to self and wife which we have adjusted to fit including crotch straps and two for guests that get adjusted for the guest before we get underway.
Auto in my opinion is a waste of time on a sailing yacht- have seen numerous events where a big wave has caused inflation.
They are not dark art devices very simple to check and maintain and should be opened up and checked regularly.
They do not like being put away wet and you may not like it when you really need it, check them regularly.
https://www.maritimenz.govt.nz/recreational/safety/lifejackets/documents/Lifejacket-guidelines-manufacturers-retailers.pdf
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5 hours ago, chariot said:
Alinghi back in and Burling and Tuke haven't signed on with Dalts yet.
Prolly holding back to see how much they are worth, hell if it meant a pay check where you wouldn’t have work too hard the rest of your life…….
Teams would be willing to have a bidding war over that sort of talent a la Coutts and Butterworth……
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Or a bent rudder shaft?
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18 minutes ago, Ed said:
Fuckers even nicked the rum!
I'm guessing one hell of a P habit and easy pickings. The plus appears they didn't get time to drink it. What needs to happen is just one of these mf's need to be caught by the boaties in the act, and handed to the police after we've all had a little chat.....they might be thankful the police are actually pretty reasonable guys.
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1 hour ago, Psyche said:
No shortcuts for the grunt work, last time I did it I used Farecla G4 on a lambswool buffer and Meguiar's boat and RV wax followed occasionally by Meguiar's boat wash. Came up mint
Yep talked to a couple of pros yesterday and Farecla has their vote as well, investigating further.
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The boats coming out for antifoul, so may as well tackle topsides while I'm at it.
The last time I cut and polished a boat was years ago, is anything that makes the job a little easier these days?
I used to use 3M and a vari speed polisher anything better now?
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Used a rudder bearing with a few shims removed on a carbon 40ftr with retractable canting sprit in the States had an internal 3/4 high bulkhead with Harken track mounted on top to control the aft end of the sprit- worked well.
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Hey Nathan what sort of boat and what is the core would be my first two questions.
I have dealt with a few new decks- one thing I have learnt is it can get expensive fast. Recently dealt with a boat that had all the teak removed and a layer of meranti ply epoxied over the core- the core that the teak was originally screwed to.
In that case the core should have been removed at the time because the core was sodden from all the screw penetrations -the core in that instance was tanalized ply.
And before you go removing all fittings remember photos and measurements are important.
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One pole driven into the mud cost about 5 K, nowdays its a matter of finding someone with the platform and the skills to put a pole, a mooring or a buoy in at exact coordinates and sign off on it.
There are only a few guys and lotsa work, lets face it no ones gonna get keen to tug a platform out to Izzy Bay just to replace one buoy when there is serious money in replacing infrastructure like the Westhaven block the entrance and extend things.
What the Harbourmaster probably needs is his own crew of guys and a platform, I doubt if Goff and the boys are prepared to spend it, unfortunately when a fatality occurs they can park it neatly under the harbourmasters nose and duck for cover, tis a shite situation.
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Been on the hard at GH a long time.
Coastal 2023
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What he said, what the hell happened?
Anything we can learn, wrong place wrong time, newbie? what?