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The "Top 10 Legend List"


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After a few jars down the local pub the other evening, my mates and myself got into an interesting discussion about what is the most legendary kiwi race boat of all time. We all had different ideas so we set about making our "Top 10 Legends List". Our selection criteria was quite wide open, the boats had to be raced under the New Zealand flag internationally or raced extensively in local waters. Race results are a major factor in our selection, but not essentual, we selected Starlight Express in our Top 10 just because we think she is a dam cool boat, a legend on the Hauraki Gulf. 

We've left out some big name boats, so if anyone out there wants to challenge our list of legends, bring it on!

1. Steinlager 2
2. NZL 32
3. Lion
4. KZ7
5. Propaganda
6. KZ1
7. New Zealand Endeavour
8. Alfa Romeo II
9. Split Enz
10. Starlight Express

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I'd be replacing Lion with Ceramco.  As a kid, was always super keen on steinlager 1 (60' tri) as well.

 

Never a fan of KZ1, for both the way we 'challenged' and the fact she got her arse handed to her.

 

I don't even know which boat alfa romeo 11 is? is that the big 100' sister to wild oats?

 

What about the spencer legend, name escapes me right now, she came back for coastal a couple of years ago?

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More of my favourites in addition to the above - and food for thought as there are more than 10....

 

All were influential and/or broke new ground in some way in my opinion...

 

470 KZ112

Party Pro

Urban Cowboy

Higher Ground

Travelodge 18

Hard Rain Mk II

Paddy Wagon Y88

Positive Touch (and maybe Exteme)

Peacemaker

MRX # 1

Red Lion

Magic Bus

Brzo

Waverider

Agree Ceramco over Lion

Fiery Cross

Elliott 6

Primo

Gerontius

Prospect of Ponsonby

Exador

[edit] Stormrider D780

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Some cool machines.

 

Loved Ceramco, not so much Lion or KZ1.

Would have to add Ranger and Rainbow to the list.

Also Yamaha one of the first Whitbread 60's skippered by Ross field gave the big boys a real fright.

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More of my favourites in addition to the above - and food for thought as there are more than 10....

All were influential and/or broke new ground in some way in my opinion...

470 KZ112

Party Pro

Urban Cowboy

Higher Ground

Travelodge 18

Hard Rain Mk II

Paddy Wagon Y88

Positive Touch (and maybe Exteme)

Peacemaker

MRX # 1

Red Lion

Magic Bus

Brzo

Waverider

Agree Ceramco over Lion

Fiery Cross

Elliott 6

Primo

Gerontius

Prospect of Ponsonby

Exador

[edit] Stormrider D780

Elliott fan much?

 

Party pro was awesome though

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What a interesting topic.

 

I have never rated boats like this. I prefer to rate sailors or designs.

 

Many great " one design" or " one off" boats have failed due to poor sailors and/or poor campaigns. Take KZ7, Outward bound, most AC, Whitbread, ton boats have not won Much for NZ. Questiot is... Were they great boats or badly sailed?. Are all the aforementioned boats just average boats that were sailed really well?... or maybe sailed against "lesser" opposition"?.... so controversial!

 

If you were rating great designs that made a difference for NZ on the world stage then...

 

 

 

Farr 727

 

Most farr designs

 

Ceramco

 

Wave rider amend many Davidson designs

 

All Ross designs

 

Hollands big SY's

 

Whitings ton designs... all?

 

Given Cats

 

GBE,'s ?

 

Many Elliot designs

 

Some Blackwell white designs

 

paper tiger (Australasian)

 

p Class.... developed many great sailors

 

Warwick cruising designs

 

H28?

 

To name a few

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Actually another is David Barkers early Cat designs like Sundreamer, stratosphere... they were way ahead of their time and blew me away as a teenager.

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10 only can't be done

Ranger
Fidelis
Buccaneer
Whispers 2
Infidel
Rainbow 2
Patiki

Ceramco
Steinlager 2
Outward Bound
45 South
Prospect of Ponsonby
Wai Aniwa/Young Nick/Escapade
Ponsonby Express
Positive Touch/Extreme
Red Lion
Magic Bus
Waverider
Paddy Wagon
Swuzzlebubble
Freeway
Fantail
Teddy Bear/Mr Roosevelt
Namu
Party Pro
Pathfinder
Sundreamer
Primo
Future Shock
Brzo
Great Barrier Express
Split Enz
Afterburner
Krisis
Moonlight
Pied Piper

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Are yes on Handicap.... take that back.

 

I like sundreamers list and the fact there are no AC boats.

 

Another to add...

 

vodafone.... or maybe not?

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