harrytom 640 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Can some one tell me what is required when sailing north? i believe the northland council wants proof of recent clean off from vessels south of whangarei.need proof to enter whangarei tutukaka opua etc is this correct? and how does the coastal classic fleet get on?surely not every vessel would under go inspection or what about overseas vessel clearing customs at opua? may of already been covered else where but cannot locate info. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pope 243 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I have heard nothing at all in regard to inspections etc. They NRC) are working at building a marine empire so it may be on their wish list. Fan worm is in Marsdem Marina, as well of most of the other hitchhikers that have arrived on commercial shiping over the years. Having a holding tank is a must, unless you have either a composting toilet or an acceptable treatment system. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marinheiro 352 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Have a read of this and especially the links at the bottom http://www.bayofislandsmarina.co.nz/biosecurity-marine-pests/ more ticket clipping... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,568 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 That's hilarious. I'm bringing the boat down here Labour weekend, then going back to the mooring in Opua. no marina involved. This will achieve nothing except maybe stop a few people going to a marina. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pope 243 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 There was a comercial boat in Whangaroa fairly recently that was found to have fan worm, it had to go south to be slipped and cleaned, B.o.I? or Whangarei. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The big T 40 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Like we race our boats with 30cm of growth underneath. Also why a full diver to inspect - 3 minutes with a snorkel can do the job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottiE 174 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 why not a go-pro on a long selfie stick? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 640 Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 ok had a read and what are they achieving?only if you use a marina,really so the fan worm wont fall while at anchor? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toltec 7 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 We spent 6 weeks doing the northland coast a couple of years ago. At Opua and Marsden Cove marina we were asked for the following Proof of insurance, proof of when the hull was last cleaned and holding tank.We carry copies of the insurance certificate and the last haulout which they take copies of.At Opua they provide a big cable tie to go around your holding tank dump valve and they sometimes come aboard and check that you are using it.At Whangaroa the harbour master was going round the boats and asking about holding tanks they did not board and I believe you can refuse them board though I might be wrong on that one.There is only one spot within the bay in which you could empty your tank. and that information is on the council website. We found it all no big drama as we were prepared with the right paperwork. However awesome cruising hopeful in getting up this year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,568 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 No doubt, but what about the 4 million other boats that never go near a marina? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ketchup Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Its all here. Far North Holdings Ltd have devised the plan. Its a real can of wormss and needs to be read. You can refuse the diver and be reported. In terms if the "marina".. I am not sure if that means you are inspected if you "berth" or just access it from a swing mooring / anchored off. The stupid thing is you can arrive into any of the bays and anchor with no issue but come into the marina/area (or tell them you are coming) and they can be all over you like a rash. Heresnthe official doc... https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.bayofislandsmarina.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/BOI-Marina-Mediterranean-Fan-Worm-Management-Plan.pdf&ved=0CB8QFjABahUKEwjTh7e4gZ3IAhVhYqYKHfKeCcI&usg=AFQjCNF67-IeMIhn4iTK-2tm7agxpM0JSw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John B 106 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 A mate has been doing some research too, this is his email to our old farts baby boomers Boat owners buyers and who to avoid group ( Hahaha) "I was doing some research after our Fan worm discussion. I phoned the NRC 24 hour Environmental hotline 0800 504 639 and spoke to a guy called Cameron, who was very knowledgeable. The situation is: Auckland is considered a ‘High Risk’ area, so the following steps must be taken. 1) The boat must be hauled and water blasted 1 month prior to entering a BOI Marina. Proof must be provided i.e. invoice or photographic attached to a date. 2) Or Hauled and antifouled within 6 months with proof Proof can be: Invoice from the yard, or an invoice when you purchased the anti foul, or photographic proof if you applied it yourself. Particular attention should be taken when antifouling props, shafts, anodes and skin fittings, as these are common points for the worm to attach." I also had a very interesting conversation with a marine biologist who tells me that this is a battle that can't be won and that although fan worm is a competitive species ( with all that implies) it actually does not do anything else but filter the water. So , How dangerous actually is this thing? anyone know? Another opinion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 640 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 end of day could make a passage to boi,make no announcements and just arrive?so whats the point of the exercise by northland council?cannot refuse a vessel to replenish water/food etc just a means to try and screw $$out of us? Antifouling in the next month but may not go north till end of january and most likely loose receipt for paint Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pope 243 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 There is a Nog and Natter at the Whangarei Cruising club tonight starting at 1900, with a NRC rep there to inform you / us as to what you / we need to do to deal with marine organisms and your obligations to be compliant. bar open and nibbles available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ketchup Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Whangarei!... BOI?... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dambo 44 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 There is a Nog and Natter at the Whangarei Cruising club tonight starting at 1900, with a NRC rep there to inform you / us as to what you / we need to do to deal with marine organisms and your obligations to be compliant. bar open and nibbles available. HI Steve, are you going? If so, would you mind making a brief report back to this thread on any points raised? Cheers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,568 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 If so please ask What are their chances of success? What are they doing about commercial vessels, fishing boats, navy, cruise ships? What are they doing about the mass of boats that will sail there from Auckland and never go to the marina? Repeat - what are the chances of success? Are they aware that the best solution for recreational boating would be for the MFW to become established sooner rather than later so all this nonsense will go away? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grant 40 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Are they aware that the best solution for recreational boating would be for the MFW to become established sooner rather than later so all this nonsense will go away? really? your idea of looking after our environment is to stuff it as fast as possible so it cant get any worse?? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,568 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Not at all. What I am saying is that I believe they are fighting a losing battle and the measures they are attempting are totally useless (happy to be convinced otherwise). Therefore the sooner it happens the sooner they will go away and leave us alone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pope 243 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Unfortunately I am a Country member so wont be there, Maybe another Whangarei member who uses this forum and is going will respond. I know from trying to discuss the situation of foreign bodies (marine) coming into NZ waters and ending up on yacht hulls with MAF folk at the boat show, there is no discussion, they know best!! I have had a reasonable run with the last lot of antifoul I applied, (Hempel Millie Dynamic Alu.) Went to get some for this years antifouling, only to find they have had to remove it as the spec has apparently been banned in NZ. The same product ticks all the Aussie boxes and is acceptable over there?? Hempel says it will take 5 years to get a new replacement product through certification. They don't want foreign organisms on our hulls, yet they take away the antifouling paints that work. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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