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Windward foil looks very useful for decapitating rival crew..... Wonder how they'll deal with that....

 

Should be ok if Ainslee isn't driving... 

 

Wonder how ze councilors are coming along with their decision making process, Goff was on the news last night saying they'd pretty much ruled out the big extension the TNZ wanted.

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An exciting new era in America’s Cup racing has been unveiled today as the concept for the AC75, the class of boat to be sailed in the 36th America’s Cup is released illustrating a bold and modern vision for high performance fully foiling monohull racing yachts.

 

The Emirates Team New Zealand and Luna Rossa design teams have spent the last four months evaluating a wide range of monohull concepts. Their goals have been to design a class that will be challenging and demanding to sail, rewarding the top level of skill for the crews; this concept could become the future of racing and even cruising monohulls beyond the America’s Cup.

 

The AC75 combines extremely high-performance sailing and great match racing with the safety of a boat that can right itself in the event of a capsize. The ground-breaking concept is achieved through the use of twin canting T-foils, ballasted to provide righting-moment when sailing, and roll stability at low speed.

 

The normal sailing mode sees the leeward foil lowered to provide lift and enable foiling, with the windward foil raised out of the water to maximise the lever-arm of the ballast and reduce drag. In pre-starts and through manoeuvres, both foils can be lowered to provide extra lift and roll control, also useful in rougher sea conditions and providing a wider window for racing.

 

 

 

 

 

Although racing performance has been the cornerstone of the design, consideration has had to be focused on the more practical aspects of the boat in the shed and at the dock, where both foils are canted right under the hull in order to provide natural roll stability and to allow the yacht to fit into a standard marina berth.

 

An underlying principle has been to provide affordable and sustainable technology ‘trickle down’ to other sailing classes and yachts. Whilst recent America’s Cup multihulls have benefitted from the power and control of rigid wing sails, there has been no transfer of this technology to the rigs of other sailing classes. In tandem with the innovations of the foiling system, Emirates Team New Zealand and Luna Rossa are investigating a number of possible innovations for the AC75’s rig, with the requirement that the rig need not be craned in and out each day. This research work is ongoing as different concepts are evaluated, and details will be released with the AC75 Class Rule before March 31st, 2018.

 

The America’s Cup is a match race and creating a class that will provide challenging match racing has been the goal from the start. The AC75 will foil-tack and foil-gybe with only small manoeuvring losses, and given the speed and the ease at which the boats can turn the classic pre-starts of the America’s Cup are set to make an exciting comeback. Sail handling will also become important, with cross-overs to code zero sails in light wind conditions.

 

A huge number of ideas have been considered in the quest to define a class that will be extremely exciting to sail and provide great match racing, but the final decision was an easy one: the concept being announced was a clear winner, and both teams are eager to be introducing the AC75 for the 36th America’s Cup in 2021.

 

The AC75 class rule will be published by March 31st 2018.

 

GRANT DALTON, CEO Emirates Team New Zealand:

 

“We are really proud to present the concept of the AC75 today. It has been a phenomenal effort by Dan and the guys together with Luna Rossa design team and there is a lot of excitement building around the boat in the development and getting to this point. Our analysis of the performance of the foiling monohulls tells us that once the boat is up and foiling, the boat has the potential to be faster than an AC50 both upwind and downwind. Auckland is in for a highly competitive summer of racing in 2020 / 2021.”

 

DAN BERNASCONI, Design Coordinator Emirates Team New Zealand:

 

“This design process has been new territory for the team, starting with a clean sheet to develop a class – and we’ve loved it. We wanted to see how far we could push the performance of monohull yachts to create a foiling boat that would be challenging to sail and thrilling to match race. We’re really excited about the concept and can’t wait to see it on the water. We think we have achieved these goals – thanks also to the constructive co-operation of Luna Rossa design team – as well as the more practical detail to consider in terms of cost management and logistics of running the boats.”

 

 

PATRIZIO BERTELLI, Chairman of Luna Rossa Challenge:

 

“The choice of a monohull was a fundamental condition for us to be involved again in the America’s Cup. This is not a return to the past, but rather a step towards the future: the concept of the new AC 75 Class, which Emirates Team New Zealand and Luna Rossa design teams have developed together, will open new horizons for racing yachts, which, in the future, may also extend to cruising. It is a modern concept, at the high end of technology and challenging from a sporting point of view, which will deliver competitive and exciting match racing. I would like to thank both design teams for their commitment in achieving, in just four months, the goal which we had established when we challenged”.

 

MAX SIRENA. Team Director of Luna Rossa Challenge:

 

“As a sailor I am very pleased of the concept jointly developed by both design teams: the AC 75 will be an extremely high-performance yacht, challenging to sail, who will require an athletic and very talented crew. Every crew member will have a key role both in the manoeuvres and in racing the boat; the tight crossings and the circling in the pre-starts – which are part of the America’s Cup tradition – will be back on show, but at significant higher speeds. It is a new concept, and I am sure that its development will bring interesting surprises

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Only in the sense that the graphics explicitly show Auckland as the location. That's obviously the preference and I suspect that releasing this a little earlier than expected, with the attendant buzz, might be designed to press the Auckland overlords to get with the program sooner rather than later. But I wouldn't be certain they've ruled plans B and C out completely.

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It just looks like a really ugly trimaran with weird weighted ama's.


 


Dunno where mark orams gets the idea that this is a brilliant design !!


 


Open hull design which is barely in the water.


 


has it got a wing sail or a soft sail?


 


And it looks seriously expensive meaning maybe 2 or 3 challengers max !!


 


Also the race area appears to be between northern end of rangi and takapuna beach.


max tide, max chop, lots of weed and commercial traffic.


Also they can't anchor in there either.


 


Odd !! 


 


I would have loved to see the ac60 cats racing up and down the ditch where they had the Louis Vitton world series races a few years ago. 


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I think they took the worst features of a multihull and a mono and this is the result. 

 

I like the split keel idea but expected it to be more like a conventional keel in 2 parts. One vertical, one canted. Both needed to right.

 

Still if they build it and it works, I'll be right behind them

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Interesting...multiple cities around the world bidding up to $116M to host the Cup instead of Auckland. TNZ expect Auckland to pony up a hosting fee over and above the $100M+ to develop the waterfront facilities. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11947935

 

I think Dalton is playing us. I'm a sailing fanatic but life would go on perfectly well without the Cup. For all the talk about the benefits to the marine industry, how many more NZers do you think will be sailing NZ-built boats 10 years from now as a result of the Cup being held in NZ?

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I don't think a fee is unreasonable, it's pretty standard just depends how much it is. For the Ruby world cup operating costs were 300 million of which the IRB was paid $150 million as a hosting fee, plus another $350 million was spent on stadiums.

 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/5843621/World-Cup-absolutely-worth-price-tag

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Are they still planning a world series thingy? Maybe Akl could just host a double points round or something, kinda like the Volvo in port races.

 

Hell, maybe do a round in Auckland and a round in Tauranga.

 

Keep the country involved, but keep the costs down

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Ok we won the cup,how many kiwis had the same attitude as me,great we won didn't watch all the preliminaries just focused on the last 2 races?

How many were not really fussed about the cup something to watch. Do I care where the next cup is held not really,would it worry me if NZ never raced again ?not at all

 

Negative comments Yes but what does it do for our sport?might help a couple of boat builders/sailmakers out,really generate income for NZ would of thought not,how much did NZ make out of the rugby world cup after expenses?

 

have we increased exports? did our debt drop? guess the answer is no,so whats the point of huge expense for any sport fixation if the country does not benefit.

 

Nz may of benefited from "Blakes" days as we won defended and retained it (8yrs)of visitors coming/going but as soon as we lost it the benefits stopped.

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Not necessarily true Harrytom, there was an ongoing legacy as a result of the AC being held here the continues to this day. Superyachts still visit NZ to have work done Cup or not.

It showcases our marine industry if and when the Cup superyachts visit the majority of them will be having work done whilst here.

 

As for the Rugby World Cup all the stats are here  An average of $3400 per visitor.

 

The more money we bring in from overseas the better it is for our economy.

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