KM... 948 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Environmental Protection authority (EPA) and Coastal Resources Limited (CRL) have been awarded a 35-year consent to dump 250,000 cubic metres of dredging every year off the coast of Great Barrier Island !!! The people of Great Barrier Island don’t want to be a dumping ground and are struggling to be heard on this one because their population is so small and they just don't have the financial resources. It’s our duty to support them - Your support would have an outsized impact. Please sign this petition -every vote counts https://www.toko.org.nz/petitions/protect-aotea-from-marine-dumping To donate: https://givealittle.co.nz/cause/protect-aotea-great-barrier-island 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rehabilitated 41 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 You need to do more than a partition. Surely the population of the Island is more than 200 plus their friends, The whole island needs to close shop. They need to organise another march along Queen street with a ten minute sit in delaying QUEEN STREET TRAFFIC, with more than 5000 or more marchers and sit at the mayors office and grounds with full TV coverage, possibly get John Tamihere as he needs a cause and exposure against Goff, [ which should get Goff on the case or in any event get additional coverage as a result ] and he should be able to add numbers with his supporters also. Send requests to all NZ's environment, conservation groups and staff members nation wide to join the crusade, all the Auckland province fishing clubs, and a open public invitation once a date has been set. Have a spoke person with personality a through grasp of the issues, contact the Queensland protest and environment group that got the AUSSIE great barrier resource consent overturned as the expert advice was that the dumping from the new open cast coal mines would not affect the reef, which it did to a devastating affect proving expert advice can be wrong when it comes to tidal currents, adverse storms and with all that get TV time on TV 1 and TV 3 breakfast morning time with colour maps, aerial colour photos of the crystal clear blue beach waters large enough for breath taking public awareness for them to realise what is their foreshore and beaches also alongside a enlarged photo of Auckland harbour brown waters at the Queens wharf with words "it would be criminal to allow this to happen to NZ's GREAT BARRIER ISLAND because it probably will". "How can our environment minister allow this to happen". Get a NZ herald journo to do a special Saturday paper story. See if the TV CH will include the case / cause in the Programme THE NATION. Try and get Paula Bennett and Bridges Support participation. Cheers. Thanks for your relentless enduring efforts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 749 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I nominate Lucy lawless to be 5he figurehead for the campaign. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rehabilitated 41 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I nominate Lucy lawless to be 5he figurehead for the campaign. You will need more than her. Try "LORD" she a bigger TV draw card, Russell Crow also, Russell Coutts, PETER JACKSON Great BARRIER ISLAND ONE DAY WOULD MAKE A GREAT MOVIE FILM SETTING!!!!... NO NEED TO GO TO TAHITI... GREAT BARRIER ISLAND IS NZ"S TAHITI. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 749 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Have any of them got behind environmental issues in the past? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tamure 425 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Sign and share Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rehabilitated 41 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Have any of them got behind environmental issues in the past? The past does not matter. It's the future and protesting is the latest fashion, craze statement activity, good citizen thing to do, real time action activity and not ridiculed or frowned a pond like previous times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 245 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Does anyone know exactly how far "off the coast" means? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rehabilitated 41 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Does anyone know exactly how far "off the coast" means? It will be in the resource consent permit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 245 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 It will be in the resource consent permit. So does anyone have that info? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Does anyone know exactly how far "off the coast" means? 25km. It's in the petition blurb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Just to help those who don't do cube roots in their head, 250,000 cubic metres is a cube of around 63 metres on each side. 35 years worth of those laid end to end is about 2.2 km long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 245 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Is this it? https://www.epa.govt.nz/assets/FileAPI/proposal/EEZ100015/Boards-decision/CRL-Decision-Report-EEZ100015.pdf If so, the dumping area seems to be about 15nm offshore in about 150m of water depth. I love GB Island as much as anyone else but I'm genuinely not qualified to understand what the negative effects of dumping at this distance are? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 437 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I am the same. And I too would think 150m of water and 15Nm off shore would be OK.However, that company needs to be monitored that they are indeed dropping the stuff that far out, as they have been caught before in the past not going out to where they were supposed to. Thanks to AIS and the Harbour Masters office wondering why the dredge was parked where it was for the time it would have taken for the return journey if they had of taken it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 245 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I am the same. And I too would think 150m of water and 15Nm off shore would be OK. However, that company needs to be monitored that they are indeed dropping the stuff that far out, as they have been caught before in the past not going out to where they were supposed to. Thanks to AIS and the Harbour Masters office wondering why the dredge was parked where it was for the time it would have taken for the return journey if they had of taken it. Don’t get me wrong if someone shows me evidence that this will have proven damaging effect I’ll sign the petition tomorrow. I’m not kidding. But when I think about the other rubbish we are dumping into our rivers, harbours and beaches much closer to land including plastics, sewage and general rubbish then I’m inclined to think maybe this one isn’t worth the fight. And maybe moving a few cubic kms of mud from one bit of seabed to the other ain’t that bad at all. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 258 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 In the north of Germany, they've dredged tidal rivers like the Ems for years and brought the dredgings ashore - used them to reclaim land... just sayin... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Freedom GBE 27 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 15 miles seems close to me at 1 knots of current we would see silt come ashore in 15 hours in easterly wind. We know currents can be in easterly direction from the Rose Noel drifted onto Great Barier over a 100 days drifting back against prevailing wind. 60 miles would be three days and much safer. I asume its our dirty harbour they are dredging for bigger boats, lead and other heavy metals will get unearthed in our harbour. The big shipping companies are setting themselves up to monopolise the market in my opinion and probably keep taking more of our harbour. I sail past the docks a lot and seem to see more down time for the cranes, also seem less ships anchored out waiting. Those new cranes probably work about four times more efficient. The free market might also stifle when Trump gets another term. I will sign the petition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 245 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Sorry guys I’m just not feeling it with this one. No evidence, not convinced, saving my energies for real issues. My signature doesn’t come lightly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 312 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12247292 Protest been and gone,this was raised in thread here about 2 months ago. If the sediment moves(which it will) it will sffocate shell fish beds on the eastern side,like a lot of sediment has done around ponui island,chamberlin bay,next to shark. Use to be a good cockle bed but now black sludge which has come from the beachland area. The bay use to be soft clean mud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 245 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12247292 Protest been and gone,this was raised in thread here about 2 months ago. If the sediment moves(which it will) it will sffocate shell fish beds on the eastern side,like a lot of sediment has done around ponui island,chamberlin bay,next to shark. Use to be a good cockle bed but now black sludge which has come from the beachland area. The bay use to be soft clean mud. But you can’t remotely compare what’s happened in the shallow waters around Thames Estuary and bottom end of Waiheke with what might happen 15 miles out into the deep open waters of S Pacific Ocean!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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