Island Time 780 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 The NZ 500 ton rule applies as a specific bylaw in any NZ harbour. The sailboat is required to stay out of the way of a vessel over 500 ton when within harbour limits. However, immediately it becomes apparent to the power vessel master that the sailboat is not doing so (5 sound signals), the "I dont understand your intentions", commonly known as WTF are you doing signal, they are required to take whatever action they seem best to avoid the collision. The harbour master has ruled that you must keep 100m from the ferry, in this area. You must do so. RYA/MCA master 200 ton. ex Elly and harrytom 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BOIGuy 142 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 I agree IT but the question regarding 500 ton refereed to actions required under the collision regulations of which there are no specific ones. The article refereed to did well to point out the poorly worded responses from a number of people who are paid to do better. This stuff ends up in the courts and possibly the coroners court, following advice that is wrong would not make a good defense. Dying to defend your rights may be noble in some circumstances but in these situations its probably called something else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 195 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 Just to clarify, we pay a squillion dollars a year to berth our boats at a marina that was originally built by boaties for boaties and now we are being told we have to wait to get out through the only remaining entrance to let a commercial ferry operator in and out. f*ck Off! zk-cessnaguy, ex Elly, Bradz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 53 Posted September 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Pretty surprised that people on here don't know about the 500 ton rule. This was drummed into us on the Coastguard Boatmaster course, and clearly stated that all ferries in Auckland must give way to yachts, except the car ferries which are over 500 tons. harrytom 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
armchairadmiral 264 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 You guys are slow. This is the first move to remove all recreational boats from Westhaven so Panuku can sell it free of existing tenancies. Might take a while but like Rachael's hair it will happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 246 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 You guys are slow. This is the first move to remove all recreational boats from Westhaven so Panuku can sell it free of existing tenancies. Might take a while but like Rachael's hair it will happen.Crikey Armchair where on earth did that cracking gem of a conspiracy theory come from.However I agree that Panuku has gone down the ill informed ivory tower management disconnect from reality at Westhaven similar to Auckland Transports bizarre behaviour. TLA election time folks make the effort to contact your local contenders to voice your concerns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJohnB 154 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Crikey Armchair where on earth did that cracking gem of a conspiracy theory come from. However I agree that Panuku has gone down the ill informed ivory tower management disconnect from reality at Westhaven similar to Auckland Transports bizarre behaviour. TLA election time folks make the effort to contact your local contenders to voice your concerns. Can't be a conspiracy......I thought the same.......remove the boats and build apartments on stilts......no reclaiming required. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ed 104 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 every boat must keep to the starboard (right) side of any channel. inside a harbour (normally shown on the pilotage limit on the chart) you must keep out of the way of any ship over 500 tons (which is about 50 metres in length). do not create a wake which causes unnecessary danger to other boats or people. Rules of the Road at Sea – Whitianga Volunteer Coastguard This was drummed in to me about 40 years ago. I am confident it will be documented somewhere just where is the problem. Navigation safety bylaws - 2014 https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/plans-projects-policies-reports-bylaws/bylaws/Documents/navsafetybylawcontrols2014.pdf 54 Duty of person in charge of a vessel under 500 gross tonnage (1) The person in charge of a vessel under 500 gross tonnage must not allow their vessel to impede the navigation of any large vessel if the vessels are in a pilotage area. harrytom 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dutyfree 81 Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 I am curious what process this went through. There must have been a consent issued to build the new docking etc. Was it non-notified? If it was notified who was told? How come the first we all seemed to know about it was when it first appeared in the Westhaven news two or three months ago? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ed 104 Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 It was all part of the AC36 resource consent. Admittedly that was one of the fastest consent application processes but was certainly widely consulted and communicated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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