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Here's and interesting fact .... And why we need random testing ..

The country by country stats and graphs we are seeing from the officials are bad comparisons.

 

The test give the number of infeceted cases data but  are reflective of the number of test done.

If NZ does only 1000 test per day for 76 positive results how many positive s would they get for ten thousand tests?

So... the less you test the better you look but it is not a real view of the infection rate.

And, how many people do not test, but are carrying the virus with no obvious symptoms.?

Thus we have no real indication of who are spreading the virus.

 

Random testing give instant stats on the spread rate.

Bring on random testing (as well as testing people with symptoms) now!

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I have read some very strange things about covid.  So first, yes it's real. And yes if you read reputable medical information you will probably be closer to the truth than a lot of other sources.

It’s a chance for horse face to put her ugly mug on tv every day now and the sheeple will Lao it up , perfect for re electing this clueless under performing team for the finishing touches on screwing

I don't agree and if you read the rest of what she said, she explains about the tolerance. IMO the govt have done a pretty good job at this point, in a difficult situation, with the resources we

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10 minutes ago, Black Panther said:

Human abortion death toll is close to zero, that's because we are an enlightened society that allows women safe legal access to the health care they need and autonomy over their own bodies. 

Let's agree to disagree on that one. But it would be way smarter to use the road toll wouldn't it?

Can we stay on topic kids.

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17 minutes ago, Black Panther said:

Human abortion death toll is close to zero, that's because we are an enlightened society that allows women safe legal access to the health care they need and autonomy over their own bodies. 

Let's agree to disagree on that one. But it would be way smarter to use the road toll wouldn't it?

Indeed - there's nothing in your first sentence that I would agree with.  

Why would comparison for thre road toll be way smarter than the abortion toll?

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6 hours ago, Ed said:

 

Sunday 29 was 63 cases (from the ministry of health daily briefing, search minhealthnz on youtube)

media reported new cases of cv in nz

march 26, thursday  - 78

march 27, friday        - 85

march 28, saturday  - 83

Sunday 29                  - 63 ....low test day

march 30, monday  - 76

march 31, today      - 48

as of today testing will be ramped-up, so we are warned to expect daily case numbers to rise again

 

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https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/tests-vs-confirmed-cases-covid-19

This graph shows we test amongst the lowest for quite a relatively high positive rate.

 

This means there are still plenty of undetected cases out there, relative to to the average "infection per test" trend of all other countries... which means the infection rate will rise big time.

The government testing methodology is wrong and under resourced.

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1 hour ago, ScottiE said:

Indeed - there's nothing in your first sentence that I would agree with.  

Why would comparison for thre road toll be way smarter than the abortion toll?

You would get no disagreement on what the road toll is. Therefore no distraction from the point you are trying to make. 

Having said that I am having trouble figuring out the point of this thread.

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41 minutes ago, Black Panther said:

You would get no disagreement on what the road toll is. Therefore no distraction from the point you are trying to make. 

Having said that I am having trouble figuring out the point of this thread.

Covid19 not abortion or road toll....

 

 

More to the point what was yours debate about?

 

" Get a new thread!"

 

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10 hours ago, Sailing NZ said:

Here's and interesting fact .... And why we need random testing ..

The country by country stats and graphs we are seeing from the officials are bad comparisons.

 

The test give the number of infeceted cases data but  are reflective of the number of test done.

If NZ does only 1000 test per day for 76 positive results how many positive s would they get for ten thousand tests?

So... the less you test the better you look but it is not a real view of the infection rate.

And, how many people do not test, but are carrying the virus with no obvious symptoms.?

Thus we have no real indication of who are spreading the virus.

 

Random testing give instant stats on the spread rate.

Bring on random testing (as well as testing people with symptoms) now!

A pretty good data of each country day by day & total numbers.

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ 

 

Agree but people are being turned away who their gp had sent for testing. They must  have had systoms for the GP to send them for testing. The gov't needs to borrow more $ billions so they can give the resource the funds to do more testing or they must raises the level to level 5 plus activate what the police commissioner has requested and impose a curfew from 2200 hrs to 0600hrs the following morning and give the police the authority to shoot those who try to run from the police when asked to halt so they can be arrested for breaking the curfew. Now.

 

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There was a graph of how NZ statistics were developing relative to other countries but it has dissappeared.

We are all aware that this erroneous as it relied on testing of probables only not random, but still I was curious 

to where we fitted in with data available.

So I drew it to current point last night with the following data.

* We reached 100 cases on 23rd Feb

* We reached 647 + approx 50 probables last night =700 assumed to be eight days.

* Not sufficiently motivated to back track daily intermediate points so "S" curve is hand drawn guess.

Vote:

1. Nicely presented but you must be bored. keep plotting daily if it keeps you amused.

2.Above but there are errors an omissions, regardless of faulty sampling

2. Its all crock of shite. Give up.

 

 

 

 

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19 hours ago, Sailing NZ said:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/tests-vs-confirmed-cases-covid-19

This graph shows we test amongst the lowest for quite a relatively high positive rate.

 

This means there are still plenty of undetected cases out there, relative to to the average "infection per test" trend of all other countries... which means the infection rate will rise big time.

The government testing methodology is wrong and under resourced.

 

If people think they could have the virus in the Wellington region, then the port Nicholson medical center Taranaki street Wellington CBD, can do and are doing testing, Give them a call now PH 043844315

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