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Brilliant read, thanks KM Isn't it great that capitalism allows one to do so much good for the disadvantaged in the community. Points to a fundamental flaw in the current Green ideology, you

Oh dear, the greens are not only being slammed by Greta Thundergob for talk a huge game they show no signs of knowing how to play, now Bob Jones has hooked into their latest woke dickwad, Mendeze the

Thats the nature of political compromise. Bismark said it best.  While the public tells you it wants housing "fixed" what they actually mean is "fix it without negatively impacting me personally"

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2 hours ago, erice said:

i hear people say ACT is far right

but a look at their policy page seems to put them to the left of obama's democrats, was he far right?




That is what I'm on about, Act was and should be Libertarain. Bugger all people have any idea what that means, let alone how to pronounce it. So, cause they are National's lap dog, they get pidgeon holes as off on the far right. I think that is where Rodney Hide took them with the big law and order BS.

I actually think Act has taken Nationals votes... And Labour have taken NZF's...

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2 hours ago, lateral said:

Is it just me, or has politics escaped from "only for the initiated"  thread?

It's alright Lateral, politics is still safely contained within Smalltalk. It will undergo a 14 day quarantine before emerging from smalltalk and transiting any other forums on the board.

And the good news is, with a certain member on holiday, it appears we can have a constructive, civil and interactive discussion in an adult matter exchange views and ideas, and possibly respect others point of view, even when in our (my) view they are plainly wrong... which is this crazy concept I always thought forums were for....

Long may it last.

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On 15/06/2020 at 9:54 PM, erice said:

a look at their policy page seems to put them to the left of obama's democrats, was he far right?

I would say that Obama was indeed on the right, pro-corporate, side of the US Dem party. 

On 16/06/2020 at 12:16 AM, erice said:

stop the left vs right nonsense and make the effort to understand the policies" 

Did he really write that? If so, I missed it. 

Agree with the sentiment however. 

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