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something the reports do not mention is that Pete is making the voyage single handed, something only a handful of people have done to date.

I have heard from Craig Smith that there is Canadian Coast Guard ship following him, at least that means he has a "lookout" while off watch ūüėÉ.

I can understand the opinions for and against what he is doing, but in the greater scheme of things freedom of passage is becoming a major issue world wide, particularly in the case of what China is doing in the Sth China sea.

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I've reported this post. Adopting the language of the extreme right to describe people who support the rule of law sets a dangerous precedent for this forum. 

I'm getting offended by the amount of offense being taken around here. No one is calling anyone a w^&#$@r, a c**t or a fuckwit, which would be highly offensive. The OP is ju

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56 minutes ago, Sabre said:

 

The most worrying part of this whole situation for me is that some very experienced cruisers think that bowing down to unreasonable beauracracy is the best way to preserve sailors rights and access to the oceans.

I would suggest that pissing off foreign bureaucracies is an effective way to get us all banned.

In NZ knock yourself out. 

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6 hours ago, Sabre said:

Should everyone just sit at home in their fluffy slippers untill some beauracratic cock womble tells us when we can start thinking sensibly for ourselves again?

'Cockwomble' is actually a real thing and I'm lovin the term to bits. I'm going to have fun with that one, Cheers Sabre

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cockwomble (countable and uncountable, plural cockwombles) (Britain, slang, derogatory) A foolish or obnoxious person.

 

1 hour ago, Sabre said:

The most worrying part of this whole situation for me is that some very experienced cruisers think that bowing down to unreasonable beauracracy is the best way to preserve sailors rights and access to the oceans.

We do have to stop agreeing so much, you being one of 'them' and me being one of 'those' and all that....whatever that may actually be  ;) I agree.

If we bow to stupidity/dumb/just f**king crazy too often then stupidity/dumb/just f**king crazy will become the datum the cockwombles will base things off as they have never had any push back. That is a 100% gimme and can be seen in play every day and in many areas of life. Giving in to unreasonable cockwombles just lowers the bar for everyone.

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If he is actually in on the high seas, then I've no issue with what hes doing. Others, including nations, may disagree.

Territorial waters are  a bit of a grey area. For a long time most nations accepted that territorial limits were 3NM, a long cannon shot. Then some nations "decided" that it should be 12NM incl the USA. NZ has a 200nm "EEZ",  but you can transit that area.

Its pretty hard for a single yacht to defy a nation - with a navy and or air force, if they are determined. They can stop you. You are vulnerable. You can't fight a military vessel. There are multiple areas in the world you are not allowed to go. If you are inside the 12m limit, then you are unlikely to get any help from your government.

Its easy to sit here and say that should not be, but its how it is. I've been boarded by armed military, and threatened with prison, but eventually was allowed to leave, its not an ideal way to spend a day! 

When it comes to nations, it's better - and recommended - to abide by their rules and requirements, customs and beliefs. Its part of the experience. If you don't like it, move on, plenty of other places to go in the world. Nations don't have to let you in, by boat or by plane, walking, driving or whatever. They can and do decide not to allow yachts. Upsetting them can make this more likely.

more info here https://share.america.gov/what-do-you-know-about-international-waters/

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So, how is he getting on? The NW passage normally opens in August or there abouts?, and can stay open for, what, about 6 weeks? Obviously all this climate change has made transits though there a load easier lately, but its still not something the average Joe can have a go at. 

And when you get to the other end, you have to beat down through the Berring Sea...

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32 minutes ago, Fish said:

So, how is he getting on? The NW passage normally opens in August or there abouts?, and can stay open for, what, about 6 weeks? Obviously all this climate change has made transits though there a load easier lately, but its still not something the average Joe can have a go at. 

And when you get to the other end, you have to beat down through the Berring Sea...

Pete was in Peel sound at the beginning of the week. Looking at Marine traffic you can see a pleasure boat transitting the Bellot Strait, I think this will be Kiwi Roa.

 

IT beat me to it

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One of the cruisers from our Club sailed across the international border into Canada 

a few weeks ago, attempting to enter the port of Leamington, Ontario. 

He was told quite brusquely that under no circumstances could he land, 

and further that he had to leave Canadian waters immediately. 

Two points: (1) Our sailor is very involved in politics, and really should have known better. The Canadian border has been closed to 

US boats for at least five months. We had a good laugh at the Bloke's expense.  

(2) It appears that the Canadians are not discriminating against the Kiwi sailor; rather, you are paying part of the 

price for the US' utter incompetence in handling the Corona-V. 

(3) Bonus Point !! Got to admire the gent - but he could be getting himself in some trouble. 

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14 hours ago, Knot Me... maybe said:

We do have to stop agreeing so much, 

Agreeing with the above statement makes it three times in about two weeks. Very unsettling to say the least.

When it does happen I have learnt to breathe into a paper bag until I stop hyperventilating....

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