aardvarkash10 955 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Spencer Saraband, tiller steering. Very light on the helm for its 3.75t, 10m size. Probably looking at a simple, one-piece, stand-alone unit - we are not crossing oceans here. Predominantly two of us on board. Simplicity and longevity/reliablity are the two key parameters. I'm going to assume any unit on the market is accurate, and not a power hog. Raymarine? Simrad? Someone else? Advice and added considerations please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alibaba 76 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Definitely Raymarine for me. Never been let down I came across an old one - plus 30 years last week and it was still working. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,233 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Well, for that boat an local use ( NOT offshore) I'd go for a Simrad. TP22 or TP32 (the 32 is faster and more powerful). I've replaced a fair few raymarine units with these for customers, they mostly love them. However, they are not (despite what the advertising stuff says) suitable for offshore - plastic connections to tiller, plastic gears etc. They will last for years for gulf cruising at the weekend though. IMO still more robust, better tiller connection and better software than the raymarine. The best addition you can make to these is to add an external compass - the precision 9 for a simrad unit. This makes steering MUCH more accurate, like a different unit. This is because the small fluxgate compass inside the units (either brand) is pretty small and unstable. The precision 9 is a solid state compass (not fluxgate) with roll, pitch and yaw compensation. It provides hugely more stable heading and turn info to the AP. But they are another $1k odd. Can be added later. The TP 22 and TP32 both have Simnet (NMEA2000) connections for the compass, GPS, Wind interface etc. There is NMEA0183 as well if you really must.... 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
180S 20 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I have a 9.2M Spencer using a SimradTP32. Steers to wind/compass/plotter via NMEA0813 and hasn’t missed a beat in 15years. Highly recommend it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vic008 17 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Then there is the Pelagic. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,233 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 The Pelargic is not the same as the std tillerpilots - its twice the price to begin with. Its a proper offshore pilot, although personally I don't like a drive unit on the ram. I like to hide it below deck out of the weather.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 955 Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 10 hours ago, Island Time said: The Pelargic is not the same as the std tillerpilots - its twice the price to begin with. Its a proper offshore pilot, although personally I don't like a drive unit on the ram. I like to hide it below deck out of the weather.... Actually, up against the others it prices in ok - $900USD converts to around $1350NZD plus freight plus GST so not excessively more at less than $2k all up for their "standard" unit. Still expensive, but in reality its only 5 tanks of petrol in the car more than the others isn't it. Or 20 bottles of wine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brien 22 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 You drink better wine than I do! 😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 955 Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Brien said: You drink better wine than I do! 😄 I drink other people's wine - its better than both of ours!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,233 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 If you seal it completely, that will kill it prematurely. The issue is both heat and cooling changing internal pressure, but also the volume change when the rod moves in and out. There is an internal rubber bellows/seal that moves to allow for this. If you seal it, it won’t move. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex TL systems 63 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I protected my 2000 with a simple cover roughly made from clear plastic like dodger clears. Keeps rain and spray off and you can still see and operate the buttons etc. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Above-the-Fold 15 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 ATF had Autohelm instruments aboard, so when the fluxgate compass/control head failed, we went with Raymarine. New EV-1 sensor unit and P70s control head. The original drive unit was just fine and is going strong. Can't recall its model but it does not have controls on it; it was driven by the control head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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