Black Panther 688 Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 I spent most of my working life presenting low offers. What i observed was silly low offers were less effective than "reasonable but a bit light". The silly offer would just piss the vendor off and make the rest of the negotiations much harder . I found it better to start near where you want to end up. Then when you get a counter offer (won't happen if you start too low) say " I love your boat and would pay that if I could, but this is all I have". But what would I know. w44vi and Sabre 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John B 93 Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 Thankyou BP. Insulting the seller with a cynically low offer is not a great way forward , especially when the object is worth the asking price. We're used to seeing boats and cars and houses historically in a buyers market. Here's an idea, houses are not at the moment. Cars are not at the moment, who would have expected a buoyant new and second hand car market. And brokers are short of stock at the top end in the boat market. We might be about to see some trickle down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 688 Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 As an aside, when we bought BP we paid the full asking price. 10% down and three years to come up with the balance. Happy buyer and a happy seller. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Young Entertainer 12 Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 the value of a new motor cannot be overstated, i spent last christmas fighting an old motor because i could not get parts for it, nothing actually wrong with it, ran perfectly, had low hours etc then something broke an being an 1987 motor spare parts were nearly impossible to get and certainly didnt arrive the day after you needed them. Using replacement parts from other manufactures helped but didnt solve the mian issues got rid of it in April, put a new one in and kissed goodbye to 30k but could not be happier. probably added maybe 10k to the value of the boat if i am lucky but the peace of mind is priceless Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John B 93 Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 Another good point thanks YE. I need to do the same next year myself, sick of chasing parts and paying usurous prices for a 30 year old motor. I have a friend who bought a D 28 for 14 k a year ago, seems fine. But there's no way you get the OP boats inventory including a basically new motor for the extra 10 k. I'd negotiate a little perhaps based on inspection but also be prepared to just pay it and go sailing , job done. In the meantime there's other people who've looked at the same boat no doubt thinking coulda woulda shoulda in a few months. armchairadmiral 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank 28 Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 Quite a few of the glass D28's had osmosis, dare I say it they are known for it (with due apologies to D28 owners past and present). Osmosis is not the big bogeyman it once was but it would be worth enquiring if it has had any remedial treatment in that area. I know of a local all GRP one that sold this week for somewhere around 20k I think. All uup if the wooden top is mint,the engine has been upgraded, the sails, running and standing rigging are in good to very good condition and the accessories are good then 20K would seem good value to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 58 Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 Otherwise there is a very tidy Marauder here for 30 grand. Will have more space inside than a D28. Only problem is the motor is 40 years old. https://taurangaboatsales.co.nz/listings/alan-wright-28-ty3779/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 688 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Furling Headsail in Boom, wonder how that works????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank 28 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Black Panther said: Furling Headsail in Boom, wonder how that works????? Probably about as well as the 40 yr old Saab 8hp "Auxillary" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 281 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Buying any production yacht from the 80s era it will more than likely have the 80s motor,need new sails etc hence why you can pick them up for silly prices. Most have only 10hps and 10 is too small for d28.Sat along side Moari rock holding our in a sw blow and tide going out,not fun. 40 yrs on and the osmosis problem should of been discovered by now. Buy a vessel for 20k more than likely need to spend 10k + so probably look at vessels with work thats been done for 35k. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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