B00B00 171 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Anyone know how strict they are in Northland on the hull cleaning rules? Do we actually need paperwork for the last antifouling and professional hull clean or are they Ok as long as the hull is actually free of any fouling? tried to book a haul out and clean this week or next at gulf harbour but they are chocka full until the new year. Normally I just clean it myself but not sure if that is enough to cover the regulations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BOIGuy 150 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 If you are anchoring it's enough to clean it yourself, if you want to use a marina you will have to talk to them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 191 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 My experience last couple of years is that if you want to get into one of the marinas eg Tuts or Opua - you’ll need a clean hull certificate which is effectively an invoice showing lift & wash within last 3 months or a diver hull clean. If you don’t have this you can still sail up to Northland (won’t be able to access the marinas which may or may not bother you) but you you could be randomly checked at any time by the clean hull police - if you don’t have a clean hull cert they will dive on your boat - I had a friend checked a couple of years ago and they actually cleaned a bit of growth off for him at no cost. But I’ve got no idea if attitudes have now changed and if you could get charged or fined if they found nasty stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Young Entertainer 12 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 last year we were checked while anchored in BOI, had to show the hull clean bit of paper and then a diver when down and checked, then photos taken we we didn't get checked again, Marina staff meet us at the berth to site the haul out form Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 191 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Yup the marinas ask for it alongside cert of insurance and eWOF (if connecting to shore power). If I was heading north this year I would want to have this sorted to be able to book a marina berth at short notice - my trusted weather prophet tells me we’re likely to get 5-7 cyclones over NI through the season. Combine that with the growing population of boats in NZ - including newbies to boating (as reported by brokers new buyers cashing in on low interest rates and buying boats from equity release due to no Covid holidays abroad) I reckon the BOI is going to be a v hectic place this year... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 648 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 If your a member at Weiti, you can dry out on the poles and the amazing manager, Katie will write you an official letter saying you cleaned your bum. If you are not a member, I 'think' you can pay a fee to use the poles. There is no shortage of requirements you have to meet when using the poles, but you can still clean and antifoul your boat, provided no marine organisms from you hull end up in the marine environment, and you don't spill any AF in the environment, and I'm sure one or two others. That would depend on if you went and bought a "cruising boat" with a keel so deep you can't get on the poles, or some keel bulb that is unlikely to stay under the boat while on the poles. If your interested, depths and height of tides for the poles on my tide programme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B00B00 171 Posted December 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Thanks Fish, keen to see your tide program. Where do I find that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B00B00 171 Posted December 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 58 minutes ago, BOIGuy said: If you are anchoring it's enough to clean it yourself, if you want to use a marina you will have to talk to them. Thats pretty much what I figured when reading the rules. But as Fogg sugests, its pretty nice to be ready to go to a marina should something happen to the boat or weatherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 648 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, B00B00 said: Thanks Fish, keen to see your tide program. Where do I find that? My notes say we touch at 2.4 m height of tide, and we draw 1.8m, so the concrete pad for the grids is at 0.6m of tide. I.e. if the low tide is less than 0.6 m, it will dry completely. If you draw 2.2m, you need a tide higher than 2.8 m to get on and off (2.2 + 0.6 = 2.8 m) As far as I can tell, the level of the grids is the same for the sets of poles both upstream and downstream of the wharf. I've checked it with the water level at low tide. That's on the outside. We don't use the inside. Smaller boats and launches do. You can also tie up to the wharf itself. The ground is sloping so you just go up as far as you need. You need to book that one, its popular. The tide programme we use is WinTides. It is very old and only runs on 32 bit operations systems, so you need an old PC. Its not an app. I've no idea how to find it on the net, I think it pre-dates the internet. Any smart phone tide app that gives you height of tide at a particular time will give you the info you need. Either that or the rule of twelfths. But at the end of the day, the basic tide tables will tell you if you can get on and off. The advantage of the app is to save a bit of time either side, not waiting for dead high water. I find it easier to get onto the poles when there is a bit of current running (water moving over the rudder). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B00B00 171 Posted December 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 38 minutes ago, Fogg said: Yup the marinas ask for it alongside cert of insurance and eWOF (if connecting to shore power). If I was heading north this year I would want to have this sorted to be able to book a marina berth at short notice - my trusted weather prophet tells me we’re likely to get 5-7 cyclones over NI through the season. Combine that with the growing population of boats in NZ - including newbies to boating (as reported by brokers new buyers cashing in on low interest rates and buying boats from equity release due to no Covid holidays abroad) I reckon the BOI is going to be a v hectic place this year... On that note, has anyone seen the Cyclone that's developing over vanuatu mid next week. Looks pretty nasty.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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