aardvarkash10 207 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 30 minutes ago, erice said: there's wet snow -1Cish and dry snow -10C-ish wet snow is dense and can melt + refreeze as solid chunks of heavy ice that messes badly with moving objects, especially aerofoils like wings and props while dry snow is low density, light and powdery and just falls away... am guessing texas got the wet snow You got it eric I'm guessing you ski at Ruapehu! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 356 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 as a bicycle courier over a bad montreal winter cycling was safer in -10C than on the black ice around -3C but ruapehu + the roof of japan too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 356 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 33 minutes ago, aardvarkash10 said: You got it eric I'm guessing you ski at Ruapehu! great video! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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marinheiro 184 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 so three weeks into the "Consultation Period" the commission is dragging the chain on releasing the data used to come up with its economic analysis https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/kate-macnamara-storm-brewing-for-the-climate-change-commission/6OVJB5VCNE5KWFSGBSDRC7OOHE/ https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2021/02/climate_commission_must_release_economic_modelling_data.html what are they hiding? Black Panther 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 207 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, marinheiro said: so three weeks into the "Consultation Period" the commission is dragging the chain on releasing the data used to come up with its economic analysis No, its not. Our advice and evidence » Climate Change Commission (climatecommission.govt.nz) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marinheiro 184 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 27 minutes ago, aardvarkash10 said: No, its not. Our advice and evidence » Climate Change Commission (climatecommission.govt.nz) No it does not, only some of the inputs 2. Macroeconomic modelling results and dataset C-PLAN model results summary.pdf: a slide deck from our modelling consultants introducing the Commission’s C-PLAN model and summarising the results we drew on for our draft advice. C-PLAN results dataset for 2021 draft advice.xlsx: contains results (and some inputs) from the C-PLAN model that we drew on in our draft advice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 207 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 ahem. The underlying data is in the excel spreadsheets you have (possibly mistakenly) omitted to include. The results of expert reviews on the modelling is also included on the webpage I linked, and this seems to be missing from your post. Not sure why. For clarity, here it is. SUPPLEMENTARY DATA AND INFORMATION Data and modelling 1. Draft advice report charts data and scenarios dataset 2021 draft advice report charts and data.xlsx: contains the underlying data for all of the figures in the Commission’s 2021 Draft Advice report. 2021 draft advice scenarios dataset.xlsx: contains further data for our proposed path to 2035 and the other scenarios featured in our draft advice and evidence reports, for those who want to dive deeper into the numbers. 2. Macroeconomic modelling results and dataset C-PLAN model results summary.pdf: a slide deck from our modelling consultants introducing the Commission’s C-PLAN model and summarising the results we drew on for our draft advice. C-PLAN results dataset for 2021 draft advice.xlsx: contains results (and some inputs) from the C-PLAN model that we drew on in our draft advice. Please note that: The C-PLAN modelling was undertaken before the most recent update to government agencies’ greenhouse gas emissions projections, and drew mainly on projections from 2019. For this and other reasons, the current policy reference case in the C-PLAN modelling exercise differs to that in our bottom-up scenarios provided above. This modelling was also undertaken before the Commission's path to 2035 was determined, and none of the model runs align directly with our proposed path or emissions budget recommendations. In our advice, we have used transition paths 3 and 4 to provide a range for the potential impacts associated with our path and budgets. Where the term "carbon prices" is used in the results summary, this refers to modelled emissions values and does not represent prices in the existing ETS scheme. 3. Expert review of our modelling Our proposed emissions budgets use evidence from economic models. Experts from Aotearoa and around the world have reviewed these models and agreed that they are high quality and up for the job. The experts said that they were “impressed by both the scope and detail of the modelling efforts, and believe that these provide a robust quantitative framework to support ambitious climate policy proposals for Aotearoa”. Our economy wide model C-PLAN was also described as being ‘best in class’. The reviews give us confidence that our models help us to produce the best possible evidence to support our proposed emissions budgets. The reviews can be accessed here: Weitzel Vandyck Model Review.pdf Daigneault Model Review.pdf Stroombergen Model Review Part 1.pdf Stroombergen Model Review Part 2.pdf Hafstead Model Review Part 1.pdf Hafstead Model Review Part 2.pdf Black Panther 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KM... 878 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Having a suss of the report for as long as it didn't become just a marketing exercise, which was only 2 chapters and that was pushing it, I see they seem to base most on selected parts from the many IPCC reports, economists and some Maori watching Pohutukawa trees. The report is 'on trend' and contains nothing new. I was dismayed to see CO2 will kill all the plants only a week after I brought a CO2 generator on advice of one of NZ's top horticulturists. Damn, after sussing that report it seems I should have been seeking tree growing advice from Shambles Eaqub, the economist, instead. f*ck 400pmm, that's for pussies, I'm going for 1400pmm, I like plants and that will increased their growth and output considerably. Black Panther 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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