TeMPuS 2 Posted December 26, 2010 Author Share Posted December 26, 2010 I really think you should stay home you are obviously a dickhead...I've just noticed your second post and the swipe at bene's and bavaria's, with a poxy up yourself attitude like that the sea is no place for you... and if you did need assistance or help or advice from a fellow travellor the chances are above 50% that the person answering your call will be a bene or a bavaria or a jenneau etc. Shame really, the katik is a very nice bluewater boat, Gary Mull dezign of 20 years ago? Pretty similar specs to most cruisers includung Bene's of that vintage, built originally by Hyundai in hong Kong or China then the moulds were moved to belgium I think What crawled up you suddenly? i have no problem with beneteaus or bavarias, lovely boats dont get me wrong. the only thing i was stating that the kalik has a higher ballast to displacement ratio 42 or 48% (depending where you read) compared to the usual of about 33% for the bene's or bavaria. Link to post Share on other sites
PaulR 3 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 When comming to NZ, go west to 170E from Fiji / New Caledonia then head south, and you will normally have a much better trip to North Cape. Some say 165E. And it will get cold and then colder every day!! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 The beneteau of your vintage (mid 80's) with a similar LOA was the German Frers dezigned 13.5m 'Idylle', it displaced 22-24000lb as a light ship vs the 23-25,000lb of the Kalik but the bene has a smaller sail area with a P of 46.5', and J of 14.6' which I think is under the Kalik given your air draught of 60' I don't have the balast to displacement for the Idylle but they will be very similar Given the differing hull shapes the stability curves of the two boats would be very similar although I suspect the Kalik would be quicker on the wind, in cruising mode and off the wind I would guess they are very similar depending on downwind sail areas. So your iniitial comparison of the Kalik v the bene and the bavaria was just a simple comparison aye...yeah right Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I crossed the Pacific from Panama to NZ in 2009. I think if you have good common sense, some boating skills and some ability to fix stuff when they break, you are good to go. If you do most of the trip during the winter and you arrive in NZ in November-December, I think the most difficult part is to sail the last 1000 nm here. The first 6000 is most likely downwind and most of it is very light winds. My best and most important gear onboard is my windpilot (Hydrovane). I would not leave port without it (unless 4 or more crew onboard) for a long passage. A good autopilot is ok too (raymarine does not count, they suck). People here have talked about reefing and sails. I don't prefer inmast furling mains. But I see people arriving in Opua with them all the time. Just don't f*ck it up when you have to reef. My advice, go for it and enjoy every moment! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I'll second the opinion that your biggest issues are likely to be crew ones. Put the four of you in a mini and drive North Cape to Bluff and back, only stopping for gas and toilets, eat under way, do it non stop , then see if you are all still friends. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 12v kettle for the pot noddles, and make everyone not driving wear blackout goggles over their eyes so they can't see. Link to post Share on other sites
TeMPuS 2 Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 hey all, happy new year to everyone. Just got back from a week on the water. Sailing a Beneteau Oceanis 331 around the sounds for a week with my potential crew...everyone got on really well and worked like clockwork even when we the winds ripped up 40+ knots and 2m swells while rounding cape jackson. I think we are going to do it, too good to pass up and with all the positive encouragement from people on here i would hate to let an adventure of a lifetime slip away while i have my youth and the money. Link to post Share on other sites
Atom Ant 0 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Good for you - have a bloody good time! Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,235 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Yep, just go! The conditions can be bad, but it does not last. You will suffer from calms more than storms! Plan for the worst, hope for the best! If the crew does not work out, get rid of some! They can be dropped off somewhere! In mast furling. HEAPS of offshore boats have it. Possibly most now. Personally I don't like it, and I have seen it bent and jammed with 2/3rds of a main effectivly locked out. The boat was a cardinal 43 (44?), called Cardinal Sin, owned by Robert Cardinal (yes a coincidence!). He was in Vuda point in 2003 and I helped him straighten the furling rod. Failure was caused by dipping the main in the sea following a broach down a wave in 30 odd knots... Slab reefing works fine for me! Matt Island Time Currenlty in Malaysia, 1/4 of the way around! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 ... there is some very helpful advice on this post, is there something I can do to draw attention/criticism/advice to mine? I posted in the 'Crew Find' section Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 jeeez you're brave for taking a beneteau out in that!!! good luck for the trip, lots of pictures please! Link to post Share on other sites
TeMPuS 2 Posted August 30, 2011 Author Share Posted August 30, 2011 Please stop emailing me, the post is pretty old now but also the trip was partly canned. Yacht is due to arrive in Auckland in a week or so, please please stop emailing me wanting to come! Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
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