Grinna 2 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Bugger http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... d=10756647 Link to post Share on other sites
darkside 61 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Its still out there. Poor visibility this morning but Astrolabe is probably on most shell road maps. A helicopter just went over on the way out. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 hahha shell road maps hey. Yeh who are these guys, gotta be cowboys. Or maybe they were relying on gps. Link to post Share on other sites
chic014 0 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 They say it ran aground at 2:30am and high tide at Tauranga was 1:53am. So don't think it will easiliy float off at the next high tide of 2:32pm Link to post Share on other sites
Grinna 2 Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 "An aerial flight this morning has identified a light oil sheen on the surface ..." An aerial flight????? What other type of flight is there? Top class journalism!!! Link to post Share on other sites
PaulR 3 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 No There is LOW LEVEL flying and then underneath that is RECKLESS flying followed a few seconds later by LANDING or OH ^^%$$^^#$%^#@#%%%$ Link to post Share on other sites
otto 31 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 A video here http://www.3news.co.nz/Ship-hits-reef-in-Tauranga/tabid/423/articleID/228319/Default.aspx Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Doesn't look good, that's well and truly parked. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 That's gotta be a significant CLM for the Captain (assuming they didn't have a pilot on board yet that far out, but if they did, for the pilot). Not a good thing to have on your CV. Link to post Share on other sites
darkside 61 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Too far out for the pilot to be on board, even for a bigger boat like that. Blowing 20kn now straight on shore to my place. How heavy is fuel oil? I assume it will dissapate over 11 miles....... Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 It's pretty well stuck. If they want to take off some of the containers they will have some fun as there aren't many, if any floating cranes that can go along side. And we a short a few barges which will be needed to cart them into Tauranga. Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Is rigger up and running down there yet?? The Ships has some major Hull damage and she has taken on water. The oil is hydraulic fluid. Just how that leaked i am not sure. They seem to think the 700tonnes of Fuel oil is OK. But the Ship is very hard and fast I I think the only way they are going to get her off is to unload a fair amount of cargo. This Ship does a weekly cycle -Napier, Tauranga, Brisbane (I don't know where else if there are other ports), so it is not as if the crew doesn't know the area, unless it is new crew perhaps. Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I couldn't get the TV3 video to play, but the TVNZ footage is working for me - http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/video-ship-hits-reef-near-tauranga-4446549 Link to post Share on other sites
grant 40 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 they were in Wellington last week too. I think it is actually 1500 tonnes of fuel oil, but those tanks are higher up so should be fine....at the moment. No offense to the great toys the Rigger plays on but I think they will be wanting something a bit larger than that, and the list of tugs like that in NZ is pretty short (one as far as i know) so look out for a stampede of horsepower from across the Tasman. Unless Smithy drives home from work instead of flying next time.... The other alternative would be get a whole gang of NZ harbour tugs and everyone pull together, 1,2,3 HEAVY! Removing cargo could also be a challenge, again a lack of resources here for the once or twice decade they are really needed. Which leads back to the Tim the Toolman approach.... MORE POWER of course a well placed offshore storm sending the right sized swell in the right direction could help a lot too whatever happens its going to be interesting to watch, and i really hope those fuel tanks stay intact. Link to post Share on other sites
rigger 47 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Just got home from work. I have heard a fair bit about it all as I was in the office his morning A good number of yachts out on the water this evening, frenzy was looking good from where I was sitting Link to post Share on other sites
Chewing Gum 17 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Don't know what happened here but easy to get slack with GPS. My experience is that zoomed out a lot of detail eg dangerous rocks are not visible on the plotter. We were sailing from Cape Brett to Gt Barrier and came close to Simpsons rock off Mokes just after dark. Luckily I zoomed in just in time. Should have been checking the paper charts ! Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I may not be correct here, but I don't think these big ships navigate with GPS, or GPS alone. I am pretty sure they have to plot everything out onto a paper chart. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 yep, from watching the crew on the bridge of the pacific independence they use gps then plot it all out on the charts Link to post Share on other sites
grant 40 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I may not be correct here, but I don't think these big ships navigate with GPS, or GPS alone. I am pretty sure they have to plot everything out onto a paper chart. Depends on the ship and its equipment, some of the newer ones now have have official electronic charts that are considered 'paper equivalent' of course there is still depth sounder, radar etc to assist them in navigation as well. at 22 years old this ship may still have been using paper charts, depends a bit on how generous the accountant is Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Rigger will know more about this than me, but every time I've been on the bridge of a commercial ship similar to this there are both paper charts and gps based chart plotters. I think you will also find a voyage plan on the bridge which details the courses to be sailed on a voyage, the estimated time and place of course changes. The there is the lo which should set out a history of the voyage etc. Link to post Share on other sites
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