OYSTR 1 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Those mirrored hulls look invisible at certain angles when its in the water Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Fairly sure ETNZ and Prada are identical.. That was the whole idea behind them working together, two boat testing to see how they go etc.. Then they will split their separate ways... Time for some glasses. Just look at the foils if the foils are different then the hulls will be for obvious, well to some , reasons Link to post Share on other sites
Megwyn 2 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I found this. Oh Thank You Farrari, I am quiet breathless now - that is one sexy boat. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 So, when do we get to see this thing sail? And what level SPF do you need to wear to crew on it? Link to post Share on other sites
Megwyn 2 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 50+ absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites
BelowPAR 0 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Fairly sure ETNZ and Prada are identical.. That was the whole idea behind them working together, two boat testing to see how they go etc.. Then they will split their separate ways... Time for some glasses. Just look at the foils if the foils are different then the hulls will be for obvious, well to some , reasons Time for some Italian lessons.. The foils are fake. Hopefully get to see the real ones today Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Actually - that's a good point - why would you make it identical? A very easy way to make the testing program 3 boat! Exactly and the rules state only a certain number is allowed and its not 3. But thats not cheating is it? Only if its dennis Conner or Russel coutes. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Fairly sure ETNZ and Prada are identical.. That was the whole idea behind them working together, two boat testing to see how they go etc.. Then they will split their separate ways... Time for some glasses. Just look at the foils if the foils are different then the hulls will be for obvious, well to some , reasons Time for some Italian lessons.. The foils are fake. Hopefully get to see the real ones today I doubt it unless the foils had packing to make them look straight like the others otherwise they would have wobbled. Link to post Share on other sites
Kiteroa 8 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 ETNZ also launched with mockup foils. So nothing new there. Link to post Share on other sites
ScottiE 174 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 But thats not cheating is it? Only if its dennis Conner or Russel coutes. No - definitely not cheating - the rules already prescribe the level of cooperation they are permitted. Conner will find it very hard to cheat this time round - not sure he's even involved. And I don't recall calling either a cheat so not sure what you're on about. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 But thats not cheating is it? Only if its dennis Conner or Russel coutes. No - definitely not cheating - the rules already prescribe the level of cooperation they are permitted. Conner will find it very hard to cheat this time round - not sure he's even involved. And I don't recall calling either a cheat so not sure what you're on about. You have to remember these are not the first AC cats. DC had some good kit with a wing 29 years ago. Nothing new under the sun! http://wingtheac.wordpress.com/2012/06/ ... ipes-us-1/ Link to post Share on other sites
Adrianp 119 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Just saw the Wing go up. Might be the first sailing day? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Did they go sailing? Link to post Share on other sites
chic014 0 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Yip they're out there: http://www.spencerhotel.co.nz/webcam.html Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Just saw them out in the old AC race course area, damn that is a big wing. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Just saw them out in the old AC race course area, damn that is a big wing. Yea Here is the Spec Luna Rosa Specs from The Daily Sail: Vital statistics Hulls length: 22 m Beam: 14 m Wingsail height: 38 m Maximum draft: 4.40 m Weight: 5,900 kg Crew: 11 Wingsail: 260 sqm Jib: 80 sqm Gennaker: 320 sqm Projected top speeds Upwind: 25 knots Downwind: 42 knots Sailing with no foils at present to see if the design is faster than ETNZ. by comparing - no doubt ETNZ has the same co-ordinates. Both will determine foils on the course verses no foils. Question - Is that allowed with in the rules. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Sailing with no foils at present to see if the design is faster than ETNZ.It will be no faster..................... nor no slower for at least 10 days, then it'll be slower. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Sailing with no foils at present to see if the design is faster than ETNZ.It will be no faster..................... nor no slower for at least 10 days, then it'll be slower. you should'nt bag ETNZ like that. I think it is smart to see which set up works. if theyrace a full AC course and the non foiler wins then what will you guys say? If the foils win then Prada can go to them and/or maybe even second generation of them to move the game forward. Oracle will learn from this too! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 I think it is smart to see which set up works. if theyrace a full AC course and the non foiler wins then what will you guys say?Please past the peanut butter? No idea JP, it all depends on what do you think we have said so far. From your many replies it's pretty obvious that it's knot what we think we have said. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I think it is smart to see which set up works. if theyrace a full AC course and the non foiler wins then what will you guys say?Please past the peanut butter? No idea JP, it all depends on what do you think we have said so far. From your many replies it's pretty obvious that it's knot what we think we have said. Luna Rosa on foils ( DOWNDATE: Would you believe it actually foiled on their first day on sailing! Other teams foiled on their fourth day oooooon sailing) . She's sailing on one "L" foil and on two rudder "t" foils. No foil in windward daggerboard trunk when she was sailing. Testing which is faster -- foils or non foil sailing. She is getting some speed up - down now and heading for ETNZ Pass The Cheese Board and liquers. Link to post Share on other sites
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