A Word from YNZ

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“Yachting New Zealand recognises that this forum connects with a whole lot of sailors and boaties out there, and offers us an opportunity to develop a better connection with you.

 

We decided to create “YNZ Talk”; initially it will be a forum for us to post updates, issues we feel may interest you or you may want to get involved in (lifejacket regulation changes, etc) and also for us to be able to ask your opinion on matters we are working on.

 

We want to keep this forum constructive and useful for you and for us. As such we may limit the ability to post replies on some threads; however it may prompt discussion in other areas of the forum.

 

We will trial the forum for the next few months; if it is proving to be a good thing then we’ll keep it going.

 

We hope that this will be something you appreciate and find helpful, and our aim is to give you a better understanding of what YNZ is doing and encourage you to engage with us more. As always we are happy for people to come and see us, or pick up the phone and give us a ring.

 

Andrew Clouston

YNZ Participation and Development Manager”

 

August 2014. 10 months has elapsed.

 

Where is the news.

 

OC

[Island Time 776]

YNZ send me stuff most weeks. It's normally on the front page, although I don't post everything. I'm not going to go back and count all the stuff, but You can if you like...

They are also free to post to this thread if they want to, and have done so in the past.

[Rehabilitated 41]

Thanks David and good to be here.

 

Andrew

 

Posted 10 August 2019 - 03:40 PM

YNZ, on 22 Mar 2019 - 11:48 AM, said:

 

Just a heads up, I won't be giving any direct answers to requests for change - I'm not a subject matter expert on some of this stuff. What I'll do is take your feedback, constructive criticism, suggested amendments and reasoning, then put it to the group (led by Angus Willison, our Safety and Technical Officer), who will consider all the information for the new regulations. Anything that is a serious safety concern can be addressed prior to the new regulations in 2021 and an amendment issued if warranted.

Andrew

        

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Can you give a Progress report re this suggestion you took been 5 months since then.

 

"Sabre, on 21 Mar 2019 - 8:58 PM, said:

 

Could some/most of the contents of a liferaft be transferred to a grab bag? ie a Cat 1 grab bag rather than a Cat 1 liferaft? It would simplify and therefore reduce the servicing costs (which are ridiculous) and give more affordable options for filling the grab bag with the appropriate gear for the intended use. It would also give users the opportunity to replace the food/water/batteries etc more often.

It is getting to the point where liferafts are becoming a disposable item for offshore sailing which really doesn’t fit in this age of reduce, re-use, recycle. YNZ, any thoughts on this?"

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

Could we please have an update from YNZ

 

Also see some real constructive ideas / susgestions

 

 http://crew.org.nz/forum/index.php/topic/16547-ynz-race-regulations-cat1-cat5-anomalies-and-concerns/page-2    

 

Thanks

[YNZ 14]

As noted above and in the thread. 

 

Feedback given so far has been collated and will go into the review of the next edition of the Safety Regulations, which come into effect on January 2021. 

[Steve Pope 105]

From the Golden Globe Race Committee: Imo. relevant to Cat 1 and if taken with a dose of common sense could / should make cat 1 redundant

 

The changes to the notice of race may surprise many. We do NOT mandate a drogue or special storm training or mandatory guidelines on masts and spars, as some suggest we could. In fact we have dropped all previous regulations that existed on masts and spars (other than lengths) and are leaving this critical issue entirely to the skippers. This is in the true spirit of the GGR. They know what to expect. We and they, are and have been, talking about it at length. Their riggers and mast makers are acutely aware of the serious challenge. they saw what happened. anything we mandate is not relevant. If the GGR said entrants must have a rig like X with Y and include Z, we would be creating a one design fleet, which no one wants.

In relation to storm tactics and equipment like storm drogues, no individual or expert exists with a sure solution, or the ultimate answer. Every boat, storm, wave pattern and situation IS different, so we will NOT regulate what the entrants must do, or should have. Like all good sailors, we keep discussing it, learning and researching, then make our own decisions and face our own destiny. their life is in their hands. If there is one thing all entrants are very aware of and serious about, it is how they plan to survive the Southern Ocean. They do not need us to tell them and we have no guarantee to give.

[Black Panther 659]

+1

[Rehabilitated 41]

From the Golden Globe Race Committee: Imo. relevant to Cat 1 and if taken with a dose of common sense could / should make cat 1 redundant

 

The changes to the notice of race may surprise many. We do NOT mandate a drogue or special storm training or mandatory guidelines on masts and spars, as some suggest we could. In fact we have dropped all previous regulations that existed on masts and spars (other than lengths) and are leaving this critical issue entirely to the skippers. This is in the true spirit of the GGR. They know what to expect. We and they, are and have been, talking about it at length. Their riggers and mast makers are acutely aware of the serious challenge. they saw what happened. anything we mandate is not relevant. If the GGR said entrants must have a rig like X with Y and include Z, we would be creating a one design fleet, which no one wants.

In relation to storm tactics and equipment like storm drogues, no individual or expert exists with a sure solution, or the ultimate answer. Every boat, storm, wave pattern and situation IS different, so we will NOT regulate what the entrants must do, or should have. Like all good sailors, we keep discussing it, learning and researching, then make our own decisions and face our own destiny. their life is in their hands. If there is one thing all entrants are very aware of and serious about, it is how they plan to survive the Southern Ocean. They do not need us to tell them and we have no guarantee to give.

 

 

This is off the topic and belongs in the race talk thread.

 

http://crew.org.nz/forum/index.php/topic/17122-golden-globe-race/

[BOIGuy 138]

This is off the topic and belongs in the race talk thread.

 

http://crew.org.nz/forum/index.php/topic/17122-golden-globe-race/

Read the first line again, its dead on topic and should be copied to the YNZ Race Regulations Cat1-Cat5; Anomalies and concerns thread too.

The more that YNZ gets pointed out to them the dissatisfaction and over bearing nature of the Cat 1 regime the better. 

[Rehabilitated 41]

Read the first line again, its dead on topic and should be copied to the YNZ Race Regulations Cat1-Cat5; Anomalies and concerns thread too.

The more that YNZ gets pointed out to them the dissatisfaction and over bearing nature of the Cat 1 regime the better. 

 

Disagree. The first 6 words read "From the Golden Globe Race Committee: "  The rest of the article starting with the words 

 

"The changes to the notice of race may surprise many." refers to the GGR. "This is in the true spirit of the GGR" and is a race talk thread topic.

[Black Panther 659]

Agree with BoIguy. We can learn from this.