[diesel-electric small-boat propulsion...]

This is an interesting idea, when under sail the prop spins and recharges the batteries - I would imagine there would be a certain amount of drag, - but with one a few solar panels I would think you could go a long way with this system.

http://www.propulsionmarine.com/electric

[RIBs What is the best brand now??]

Anyone seen or had anything to do with these - Not sure how tough the floor would be but it would Pack up a treat. http://www.promarinesh.com/AH.html

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

Hey sorry I wasn't knocking the Maurauder in any way I think they are an excellent boat. My thoughts where if u and/or your family are new to sailing a cav etc might be a bit less powerful/ intimidating than the Maurauder for going coastal. The Maurauder is an extremely capable boat coastal wise in the right hands.

All the boats mentioned are good boats if u buy a Maurauder take a couple of experienced people with you for your first coastal and enjoy

 

No it's exactly the sort of info I am after sow1ld, given it's easy to buy and hard to sell I want to make an informed purchased and get it write for both me and my family first time round, I understand there will always be compromises but I'd rather live with a few faults I knew about then a headache I never saw coming.

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

Cheers for the heads up BooBo - so I guess taking up and down the coast would be no issue in your mind - it makes sense that a lighter boat might get a slightly harder time. but I guess it makes it a little faster in light air as well ? is that correct?

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

Maurauder the most spacious and fastest but the most expensive and probably a tad bouncer for coastal than the lot but still perfectly capable.

MY pic day sails over night etc Maurauder, coastal and cook strait cav32.

 

Would this mean in you opinion the Maurader would not make a good coastal yacht?

Were they designed more as a harbour racer, seems they hold their price well and are a sought after yacht, although I have never seen one in the flesh they look very similar to many of the others mentioned here.

 

Although I have spent many hours crawling around yachts pulling wires ( and the odd Ice breaker) I have never really got my head around hull shape and design, despite knowing it will make all the difference when in heavy seas. hope someone can point me in the right direction with this

cheers

[Electrical WOF]

you Need the main switch, and being double pole this will eliminate any stray currents form other boats so keep that and a RCD down stream of that, the Hot water cylinder should not be covered by the RCD as you will get nuisance tripping due to earth leakage. I would go for the same size element down sizing will just take twice as long to reach temp and end up using just as much power.

Hope this Helps - I'm sure you Electrician will sort you out

[Electrical WOF]

Tried to answer this earlier but I must have hit the wrong button

As Redline has well pointed out the boat wiring should be fine - if it's to be connected to mains power It will need an RCD fitted at point of supply - I would also recommend a galvanic Isolator - an inspector will want to see this when he issues the WOF, it will also save you a whole heap of other issues on the boat. Its my understand if a Reg Electrician does the work he can issue the first Wof for the boat -I would check this as the regs seem to be changing every week in NZ at the mo.

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

Thanks all for your great advice - I'm still a bit torn between boat types, I'll let you know the out come either way but if any one comes across a boat they think I should look at let me know.

Cheers

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

life to short to worry sbout what might happen - and no point worrying when I don't even own a yacht yet mind u once I have found the right boat to fall In love with I'm sure ill be do my fair share of worrying

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

Welcome to Crew.org Spinner

 

I'm also here in Christchurch, having recently purchased a Contest 29 in Kaitaia and just completed sailed her home. I dont have enough experience of the different types to be of any real help in that respect, but I have just been through the process of finding moorings here and I'm happy to answer any questions/tell you how I found things, if it's of any help.....

Wow nice looking Yacht did you have much trouble finding a mooring, Diamond harbour does worry me a bit for security - would be interested to hear your thoughts, and how you got on finding a berth.

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

Have a look at a kiwi build trademe 571234332 A good well balanced , roomy , quick ,cruiser.

Nice looking yacht bit out of my price range unfortunately,

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

Nothing wrong with a professionally built wooden boat - just have it checked out properly especially the deck and cabin as fresh water is the enemy.

 

Have you considered a larger trailer sailer ? Much cheaper to own and maintain and some have retracting fin keels and probably outperform similar size keel boats. Somebody else on here can probably advise some good designs. Make sure whatever you get that is reasonably quick, not a dog. Boats always need money spent on them after purchase so try and find one where most of the work has been done. Bigger is always a lot pricier to own in terms of costs.

 

hey mate thanks for the heads up - to be honest a trailer sailor has never crossed my mind, may suit some folks but not my cup of tea. and lets be honest it would take some big balls sailing a trailer sailor up the east coat.

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

I think you contact the christchurch city council, there is a lady that deals with it. The back row is only good to about 26ft but the front row can handle upto about 33ft. There are normally plenty free, although all might be rented, so you have to track down the people renting the empty ones and see if they want to sublet. Its pretty cheap.. Although we are currently sitting in a marina in Kudat Malaysia that is totally free

Thanks for the heads up I'll look into it - it's my fav bay to drop anchor and just chill out, and only a 5 minute ferry ride away it's almost perfect

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

. In Christchurch the only safe convenient place to keep a keeler is the inner harbor pile moorings which is impossible to get a spot unless you buy a boat that is already there. Other than that Diamond Harbour is a good spot that has pile moorings for $450 per year, you just have to catch the ferry across.

 

Does anyone know who one has to contact re availability of mooring in Diamond harbour. At this stage I have been looking at yachts already on moorings, finding a good boat and a sheltered mooring are not easy in this neck of the woods.

If I can find a good mooring I can look outside of christchurch at yachts

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

Awesome stuff this really great hearing some honest opinion's

I guess I might have to re think the GPR Verse wood, I called an insurance broker a few days ago to get an idea of annual costs to insure a yacht in lyttelton, the first question was "is it wood" I assumed from this that maybe wood was an issue.

Having seen BB's boat on trademe has really made me think twice, it's certainly way more then a GPR H28 which seem to be going for similar coin.

Good thing I'm not in to much of a rush, really trying to find a yacht that ticks most of the boxes on my list.

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

 

This can vouch for this boat http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-m ... 980202.htm Quicker than a Cav30, and a brand new 20hp engine is a big bonus for coastal crusing. And maybe Bimini Babe might be convinced to deliver it ?

 

Re-the Cav 30, probably a pretty good boat, The one for sale in Christchurch seems a bit pricey but that is just my opinion, no furler, old engine? And be careful to check for osmosis.

 

Wow that's one well laid out boat very tidy indeed $30 k almost seems to cheap -

One of the reasons I was steering away from wood was also the fact that insurance can be more difficult to get, and it's not easy in christchurch full stop.

I have looked at the Cav 30 in Christchurch and agree it's a bit on the high side price wise and looks like it needs a wee bit of TLC, and I really want a roller furler just for ease of use, I'm hoping to do a bit of single handed sailing from time to time.

 

Thanks for all the great advice folks, I think I have all but been talked out of a floating caravan (H28) Still think they are a wonderful looking yacht all the same.

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

some really good advice thanks all - anyone got thoughts on the cav 30 - are they fairly easy to sail and are they capable

as far as coastal cruising goes, I have read somewhere on here

they are a bit if a handful down wind.

sow1id - I like your comment about being able to make good time, makes perfect sense with the ever changing winds here in NZ. does the cav 30 fall into this hull shape ? I like the look of the cav 32 but they to are getting into the top end of my price range, and I want to have some coin left over for any extras I might need fitting it out and tidying a yacht up.

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

not interested in a wooden Hull

Out of interest, why not a wooden hull?

To be honest I love the idea of wood other then the fact I am lead to believe they do require more work to maintain, and being a tradesmen the last thing I want to spend my weekends doing more work on a yacht.

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

Two yacht designs you could consider are a Davidson28 or a Marauder.

 

Both of them sail well and are cruising friendly.

 

a.f.u

yeah I do like the look of the D28 the marauder looks to be a bit more expensive, I'm unsure if I want a full Keel or a fin Keel, as I'm wanting a sea kindly yacht that will take me up and down the east coast comfortably, and maybe further once I have a little more experience

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

Welcome to crew.org

 

I assume you are after a keel boat. All the ones on your list are great boats. H28s are very popular so that must mean something. I think they are great value for money and very safe boats

 

Fiberglass is great as long as there is no osmosis. Get a good marine survey before you buy

 

If you stick with a good kiwi designed glass boat you can't really go wrong

 

Best of luck

Hi Royale - yes looking for a Keel boat - don't want a yacht in my back yard and don't really like the idea of towing a large boat around.

Sounds like a good survey is a must, I'm want a yacht to escape from work hence not wanting a doer-uper, apart from the obvious annual up keep

[Ideas on a first cruiser]

Hi All have just joined this cool forum I'm amazed by the wealth of info here.

I'm wanting some advice on a first yacht to learn sail on and eventually use as a coastal cruiser. I know this has been done to death, I'v read what post I can find on here and else where

I'm not totally new to sailing growing up sailing lasers and hobby cats and then spent a few years wind surfing.

I'm based in Christchurch so the yachts on offer are limited. my thoughts so far have been an H28 even though every one says they are slow the sound like a good place to start, option 2 would be a Nova 28 or Cav 30 or whiting 29.

I'm hoping for info on what to look for and and what to stay away from, not interested in a wooden Hull and don't want to buy cheap and have to spend thousands doing a fix up.

Any advice and thoughts would be greatly appreciated