Coastal Divisions

[Guest]

IRC also smacks yachts that plane downwind, especially if they are small.

[Guest Saturday Night Special]

this has become quite interesting ,What we have now is enough information with CC to create its own Handicap called the coastal Handicap you race with what you are given or Fark off . some classes have 25 + years of history some one like or not it can be done .

[Absolution 7]

IRC also smacks yachts that plane downwind, especially if they are small.

 

...and you get a penalty if you have both gennakers and spinnakers so no good for Fineline unless we get an IRC cert that excludes the gennakers.

[wal 27]

OK, I have a 30 footer with not a lot of lead, doesn't exactly fly upwind but gets a rating of 1.132

 

A Cookson 39 (Akatea) has a rating of 1.139

 

I wouldn't even bother rolling over in bed to look out the curtains to wonder whether I should think about entering

[Guest Saturday Night Special]

as i say we have history to create a handicap Fark the rest. Wal see your point

[markm 22]

nzrat, we do have the history but I'm not sure how much it helps. Certainly some will prefer it, others will suddenly become a whole lot less critical of PHRF.

 

Attached list of average rating in all coastal classics for any boat to have done at least one in the last three years).

[Guest]

Hey nzrat. What boat do you own. ?

[Guest]

Interested to know how the results would have been calculated if the boats all had an up- wind handicap and a down-wind handicap as the race had a bit of both.

Next we will have an introduction of wind strength handicaps. Above 15k and below 15 k so the handicapper then has to work out what wind strength a boat had during part of the race, just incase that particular boat might win. And we cant have that can we

 

As for any other handicap system, NZ just dosnt give a toss. We have had the 1/4 ton rating through to the one ton cup. We have tried IMS, ORC, and IRC to name a few. All have died in NZ though we still have a small number of boats hanging on to one or the other. I have been involved with all of them and cant keep up and quite frankly dont want to. ( nor can I afford it. Like a lot of other kiwi yachties )

 

Cant see the point in making changes to PHRF just for one race.. Last week we had our arrse kicked in a 25 mile race where two thirds was on the wind. Were beaten-up on line and PHRF but will be back. There will be another race that we will enjoy.

 

For those who cant beat the canters, why not join them, I know of 3 that are on the market.

[MrWolf 0]

If you want to beat the canters, you can do it for a lot less money by getting yourself a multihull !

 

unfortunately there's is only one handicap winner per division, we aren't as politically correct in multihulls, and we are big enough to all settle for the one winner per race, not needing a win in IRC or ORC or Phrf or General Handicap to keep all our owners happy

[Guest]

oops, SORRY about that Mr Wolf. I forgot about the rafts .

Agree on both coments too !

One hadicap per division. ( and Line ) At the moment it is PHRF for keel boats. Though there is ORC and IRC for those who think it is important. I had an IRC rating for Thirsty Work and was shafted so never renewed it. Didnt even think about it for Tongue Twister. The number of boats in those divisions speaks for itself.

There is no General handicap in the Coastal.