Kiwifish 30 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Is it legal to sit on the rail with legs dangling over the side in a category C race trailer yacht race? The safety rules say nothing outside of lifelines,unless complying with RR49.2 which says a competitor siting facing outwards with his waist inside the lower lifeline may lean out over the top lifeline. What does that mean for your legs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JK 28 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 The rules mention competitors not positioning any part of their "torso" outside the lifelines, which means arms/legs/head are ok to have outside the lifelines. If you have dual lifelines you can lean out under the top one - however the rule does stipulate this is if facing outboard, which means anyone facing inwards cannot lean out under the top lifeline. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwifish 30 Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 Makes sense thanks, Big advantage to have lifelines vs no lifelines then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JK 28 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Just remember that facing outward bit! It may be more comfortable for the helm/mainsheet to lean out over the first lifeline when heeled over on the wind, but it is against the rules. At the 8Y8 nationals a few years back there were a few boats pinged for the helm/mainsheet leaning out between the two lifelines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwifish 30 Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 Does that mean the ts16’s rules have been modified to allow the hiking out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattm 98 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 No, the rules say nothing outside of the lifelines, if you don’t have lifelines, you can’t be outside of them. As seen on TS16, N22, E5.9, E6.5 and many other sport type TY’s. Face in hiking with straps seems to me to be safer, and certainly more comfortable (and faster), than having the crew between them, or the helm bent in half inside lifelines. Big advantage not having life lines then, huh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwifish 30 Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 Thanks Mattm, but how does 14.2 not stop that? Unless they are racing as a “sports boat” then as I understand it they are not racing with a handicap? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwifish 30 Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 I guess if it’s a class race and they are all racing as “sports boats” then it’s a fair race. But if a TS16 is in a mixed fleet and they are hiking out, even two well built sailors on a high pie diet are not likely to get line honours. Surely the advantage wouldn’t be worth not having a handicap? I’m new to racing, just trying to get my head around all the rules, I appreciate the replies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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