Guest Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 20K? For 20k you can have this... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-m ... 484249.htm 7k for materials seem a large amount. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 If I am Guessing heres a simple Breakdown of hull Cost Labour mininmum based on Ginges 12 Builds and my own 60hrs minimum(80/hr)4.8k Material 7k Rig Mast 1.6k mast Boom 1k Sail 2k Deck gear 1k Foils 2k What we up to? No Mould recovery costs ordesign royalties in there and we are up tonearly 20K what are we up to ? we are up to this !! If I am Guessing here NZ, respectfully by your logic comparing every 12 to 14 boat to the Interdom. placing dev. 12 footer would mean every boat is $20,000 then by comparison this one would not be expensive, they would all be roughly 'the same' 1k for a boom on a simple unarig ? my bros contender boom cost a little over half that with shipping, retail Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 so $ 120.27 to $142.59 there are many NZ players too http://www.kilwellfibretube.co.nz/techn ... /index.htm http://csparnz.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... -Tubes.pdf great thing is carbon raw material is no longer a 'rare and expensive' thing Enginering yes Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Saturday Night Special Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 rig is being made by C tech spoke to them today about a similar Rig and you wont get any change out of 5k Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Saturday Night Special Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Try getting a warranty claim down here or a engineer to touch that when you are building a production boat If I am Guessing heres a simple Breakdown of hull Cost Labour mininmum based on Ginges 12 Builds and my own 60hrs minimum(80/hr)4.8k Material 7k Rig Mast 1.6k mast Boom 1k Sail 2k Deck gear 1k Foils 2k What we up to? No Mould recovery costs ordesign royalties in there and we are up tonearly 20K Guessing is right. for example... (retail prices) NOT Trade Less% Round Standard Modulus Carbon Tube 2.1mm Wall Inside Diameter (ID) mm Outside Diameter (OD) mm ECL Price p/m NZ$ Weight p/m (kg) approx Product Code 58 62.2 $ 120.27 0.61 RCT2158 63 67.2 $ 125.27 0.66 RCT2163 63.5 67.7 $ 126.23 0.67 RCT2163.5 65 69.2 $ 129.12 0.68 RCT2165 70 74.2 $ 138.74 0.73 RCT2170 72 76.2 $ 142.59 0.75 RCT2172 75 79.2 $ 148.36 0.78 RCT2175 76 80.2 $ 150.29 0.79 RCT2176 80 84.2 $ 151.66 0.83 RCT2180 86 90.2 $ 162.75 0.89 RCT2186 88.8 93 $ 167.91 0.92 RCT2188.8 89.1 93.3 $ 168.47 0.93 RCT2189.1 90 94.2 $ 170.13 0.93 RCT2190 98 102.2 $ 177.21 1.02 RCT2198 100 104.2 $ 180.75 1.04 RCT21100 108 112.2 $ 194.91 1.12 RCT21108 125 129.2 $ 225.01 1.29 RCT21125 127 131.2 $ 228.55 1.31 RCT21127 150 154.2 $ 269.26 1.54 RCT21150 or... http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/Product ... 0-3mm.aspx Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 similar: like the 12' skiff vs. simple singlehander example ? i imagine there are one-off retail prices vs. production run bulk buys Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 similar: like the 12' skiff vs. simple singlehander example ? i imagine there are one-off retail prices vs. production run bulk buys why the scaremongering? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Saturday Night Special Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 why the scaremongering? What scaremongering you questioned my Costing data these are the facts of what it will cost the reality of building a boat like this from this medium is not cheap ,The Javelin guys have spoken to me and feel my costing is actually understated Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 . again, how is it comparatively expensive when it is guessed to be the same price ?? i suggest we will have to wait for a price this is pure speculation there are not 7k in materials in this hull it's true that it's getting built to a standard - all carbon, not down to a price How If I am Guessing logic comparing every 12 to 14 boat to the Interdom. placing dev. 12 footer would mean every boat is $20,000 then by comparison this one would not be expensive, they would all be roughly 'the same' Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 More pics Link to post Share on other sites
mattyg 0 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 rig is being made by C tech spoke to them today about a similar Rig and you wont get any change out of 5k If that's the case then the builder should get a quote from asia or US. similat rigs their are under half that they may be half the price but thats no good for the NZ Marine industry, C Tech have a very high quality product and you get what you pay for. Support NZ industry. We don't want to see more companies going under. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I am based up in Asia, and we see the rigs that are available from a variety of suppliers. I'd put C-Tech right up there with the best available, and price wise, C-Tech are somewhere in the middle; they aren't as expensive as the big name brand spars, but no doubt there is a way to wriggle around and save cost here and there if you are willing to forgo some of the cool things Alex and his team can do in terms of tapering, reinforcements, saving weight etc. For things like booms and tiller extensions, simple basic tubes, then yes, it's possible to save money here and there. Not something I would do when you are selling a semi bespoke relatively high tech boat like a Shaw 4. A bit like choosing cheap Italian deckgear vs. Harken/Ronstan - you don't really save as the client ends up changing it all out with what they boat should have come with in the first place. The strong NZD isn't helping us so much at the moment, but I'd still easily choose C-Tech every time over some of the other options we checked out. If you saw how some other rigs are set up, there is a major benefit in buying from someone who actively races big load lightweight rig boats like Alex does on the skiffs. By comparison, the Shaw 650 rigs are simple, but effective, stiff and light. Shipping rigs is a total PITA - so again, if the boats are in NZ, then you are either stuck (or happily buying) from a Kiwi supplier...or you can expect freight and possibly damage (we lost a rig coming up here before already - strangely a 6m section won't fit through a 4m wide door). Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Saturday Night Special Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Well I sat back and watched this I made statements got shot down for what I said ,The out come ,the boat was a dog ,it was taken back by the suppliers offered for sale to recoup their cost ,where is it now ? Link to post Share on other sites
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