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The skate park thing is false equivalence
I was merely riffing off your comment that, "If a golf course, rugby field, cricket pitch, skate park, basketball court was under utilised and better served the community as something else then yes that should at the very least be explored." You are either moving the goalposts or creating a strawman argument by saying now, no, you mean a skate shop. But hey, I'm impressed you've stuck around so long after announcing you won't be back, so I will amend my metaphor to work within your changed parameters:
If a skate school pushed for the closure of the skate shop next door so they had more space to store their and their members' gear, despite this causing there to be less than 33% capacity for all other skaters to have their regular required maintenance done, this would be a problem. If all the other skaters were pleading for this shop to remain open because, as stated, there is not enough capacity in the area to support them continuing in the hobby, this would be a problem.
If the national skateboard governing authority and all the other skate clubs (except, of course, the school that wants to store their gear there) in the area were saying, "hey, we shouldn't be closing this skate shop as it's really integral to the needs of many, many local skateboarders," this would not be a "vocal minority."
This isn't only about niche tris; I just happen to love one. This, plus the closure of Pier 21, restrictions on LSBB, and Orams going big-boat-big-money-only, impacts all keelboats in Auckland, particularly the smaller ones on smaller budgets. As a skater would say: "so not cool, man."
QuoteI don't know and I don't care it has nothing to do with me
If this doesn't sum up your whole attitude towards other people's needs/wants, nothing does.
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6 minutes ago, CarpeDiem said:
Imagine if YNZ dropped RAYC in support of the community they represent.
That would be equally hilarious and infuriating that it got that far. This whole situation is an ugly bad dream for me.
https://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/news/landing-okahu-bay-last-chance-have-your-say
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And if a LOT of skateboarders turned up to the local board meeting about closing the skatepark and said, "hey this is our only safe spot to board in our community! we get huge value out of this space and if you take it away we are going to have to use footpaths and roads or give up our hobby entirely," I would really hope the local board would listen and come to a compromise. Not sit through their speeches, then tell the rest of the board before they voted that he'd still be voting to close it (shoutout to OLB Chair Scott Milne for doing exactly that last year).
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Calling the content of this thread an "echo chamber" is a bit silly when every Auckland sailor I know (except those on the RAYC committee), every Auckland club (except, again, RAYC), and YNZ, are all saying this closure is a poor decision and they do not support it... Add in how you keep claiming the link between Howard Spencer's openly declared interests in the Trust and Tamaki Marine Park are a conspiracy theory, and aye yi yi, it makes me feel like I'm back in America with Trumpian politics: call those with the majority opinion conspiracy theorists in an echo chamber and use your money to take take take.
I mean, seriously, the national governing body of the sport you claim to need this space for is telling you you're doing it wrong... If that doesn't make you think, nothing will.
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Okahu sailor, you encourage me to "encourage the Council to allow club yards to expand their footprints," when I am encouraging the council to simply maintain (or honestly, even reduce somewhat, but not remove) their yard's footprint. You sound like a NIMBY, to which I can only say: "okay, boomer." Pull your head in mate.
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Closing boatyards in the name of supporting people having access to the water is cutting off your nose to spite your face too, don't you think?
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17 minutes ago, Dambo said:
Most of whom won't or can't haul a mid-size tri. (believe me, I've made many, many phone calls)
Ahhh so that explains why some of these places weren't suggested to me when I was asking anyone and everyone during my hunt 🤦♀️
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Of course the closure is in the club's best interests -- they are interested in money and a bigger carpark. None of those dirty DIY yachties. Melges 40s craning out at Tamaki Marine Park are the way of the future for "the fortunate few" as you call them!
Page 2 (by document page numbers; 5th page of the pdf file):
- "When all boats are antifouled annually, capacity is 33% of the fleet for Auckland"
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"Relevant points from the distance analysis are:
• There is insufficient overall capacity in the 18-month and 12-month scenarios.
• Boat location is not matched with facility location, suggesting a significant number of boats must travel to be antifouled, potentially creating a biosecurity risk.
• In general boats can reach a facility within 50 nautical miles, but demand for services locally may mean boats have to travel further."
A sailing world champs was held at Okahu Bay while my friend had his cat hauled. He let the sailors hang out in the shade under his boat to eat lunch and listen to the music he had playing while he worked. Everyone shared the space happily. Like, y'know, adults. Or well-taught 5-year-olds.
Thank you for the list of facilities. I have done extensive research and yet some were still new to me (it's amazing what happens when we work together, isn't it?). Unfortunately, a significant number of the options you listed cannot handle my weird footprint of 10.6 LOA * 7.6 beam (and I am not able to use the Roodberg at all). Orams, for example, won't take me because I'm too short for their big travelift and too wide for their little one. They also aren't taking smaller keelboats unless you've got a friend working there (I know several 8-11m keelboats who have been refused). I have had to acquire a cradle because every location I contacted that could safely haul me didn't have anything to put me on.
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3 hours ago, Okahu Sailor said:
In an era of declining participation and increasing compliance costs many sports clubs around the country face an uncertain future. Yacht clubs are no exception. So should they keep doing what they’ve always done with some tweaks around the edges and slip further into decline? Or make some fundamental changes to ensure a sustainable future?
Royal Akarana Yacht Club has chosen the latter. Giving up their exclusive use of their site in Okahu Bay and opening up to a variety of marine user groups along with some very generous donations the Marine Sports Centre has taken shape. Visit the site on a sunny weekend and you will immediately see its popularity. Hundreds of people using the site for many different activities, mostly but not exclusively marine related. Dinghy sailing and paddle sports being the most popular. But they have a long way to go to ensure long term survival. They have plans for national and international events which will drive participation and encourage growth in dinghy sailing (which will in turn filter sailors through to keelboats), growing their very successful learn to sail programs as well as continuing their former core activities such as offshore keelboat racing. And now that will be along side other marine sports such as Waka Ama, rather then competing against them for resources. This is in part funded by the restaurant and event centre on site, a very necessary part of ensuring a sustainable operation.
So then there is The Landing hardstand. An anomaly in Auckland it was neither club owned or fully commercial. Run by a private contractor but funded by Auckland Council for the exclusive use of a fortunate few, in a location that is no longer and probably never was particularly well suited to its use. When the consultation was opened on the hardstand’s future the Marine Sports Centre and RAYC recognised the sites huge potential as a hub for marine events, as well as turning The Landing into a space that people want to visit to further encourage growth. And yes additional storage for club boats in an age where people don’t have the means to own their own boats, or space to store them at home. (As a side note there about 60 club boats in the Marine Sports Centre and ASC boat sheds, another 30 club dinghies within the Centre footprint, 60 surfskis in two 40’ containers in the carpark, several Waka on the grass in front, 20 or so more Waka elsewhere on the site and another 40 odd members boats either on the ramp or in the back carpark. At least 200 boats in total which are all regularly used - there is demand for more and a long waiting list for very limited member storage. Restaurant storage comprises a 3m x 3m cage in the shed.)
Instead of suggesting boycotts and implying conspiracies which will only drive the sailing community apart, I would invite you to visit the site on a sunny weekend and imagine just how good it could be as a hub for marine sporting events. And maybe even recognise that increased maintenance costs for a small group of boat owners could actually be for the greater good of the sport and long term survival of one of New Zealand’s oldest yacht clubs.
Lol, I'd love to know how many people were on the committee that wrote this simpering drivel.
"The exclusive use of a fortunate few..." Give me a break! I'd love to compare how many boats moved through that space annually in order to keep themselves running for cruising and racing, then add up how many people got access to the water from attending said cruises and races, against your tally of dinghies and paddlers and the like. Only then could possibly I be willing to hear out your argument in good faith.
And for the record, I *have* spent a *lot* of sunny weekends there in the last 7 years. I was maintaining my old keelboat, then redesigning my transom and repairing my rotten bow deck on the Wolf. And you know what? There was always space to share, and the folks having a nosy with their kids around the boatyard were kind, and interested, and never acted like we were out of place. In fact, the only ones who seemed to have a problem with it were the folks who are now clamouring so loudly that this is unfair to sailors.
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Well, I've been asked to comment and if you know me, you know I love to comment...
Yes, please fill the survey out, folks! select that "strongly support" option when it asks about the hardstand, tell them it's insane to propose a $10mil park when they have no money to do so! The boatyard is so, so critical to local boats, particularly (and, I admit, very selfishly) multihulls.
It's an absolute farce that a certain chair of a certain Akarana Marine Sports Charitable Trust seems to have the Orakei Local Board wrapped around their finger, and it's utterly tragic but most RAYC members and even many on the club's committee seem to have no idea that there is collusion happening. It's so obviously suspicious that representatives from that certain chairperson's Marine Park business in Tamaki presented to the OLB about how bad The Landing was and how much yard space the Marine Park has... I dunno, just didn't seem super relevant for them to attend that board meeting unless they'd been asked to by someone above them, but maybe that's just me (sidenote, should we talk about that awesome bridge that blocks yachts from using the Marine Park unless they hire a crane to drop their rigs? Brilliant. Instant doubling of your haulout costs; you love to see it...)
Anyway... Just pretty upsetting in general that the Trust's website says "our goal is to provide a safe, accessible environment in which our people can explore some of NZ’s most valuable taonga (treasure) — our moana (sea) and our whenua (land). We actively promote non-profit water safety education and recreation opportunities, and build stronger community connections via our inclusive marine-based multi-sport facility." Even worse is today's newsletter piece from them, which blathers on and on (similarly to how I'm doing here) about closing The Landing for a range of terribly self-aggrandising reasons (but really just so they can have their (car)park).
Okay, rant over, please submit your feedback supporting the hardstand, and uhhh I guess I'll log in again in 4 more years?
https://akhaveyoursay.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/thelanding2023
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Yeah, Fish, that kind of girl! ????
Am one of two women in the regular 8.5 fleet here in Auckland. We were the only boat to go out today (gusting high 30's). Took great pleasure in telling the other crews to woman up and stop being a bunch of a boys ????
And if you know me, you'll know those comments were dripping in love and sarcasm. Equality for all! What's between your legs has zero impact on how you sail a boat!! (I can't believe I have to explain this to some people!)
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put my new (to me) winches on! was initially happy but after sailing Westhaven to Waiheke on them I felt like the self-tailers were in the wrong position, so I shuffled them around. in doing so I over-tightened them onto the base so the drums weren't turning smoothly, and then sheared the head off a bolt off while adjusting them again to allow room for the drums.
so, that was fun.
fixed it all up now and relatively happy. they're a little bit big for the boat (beggars can't be choosers when you find a pair of winches for $150 at the car boot sale) so I need bigger sheets if I want to really confidently use the self-tailers in big winds. happy enough with them in under 15kts though.
what I can't figure out is why the to-do list doesn't ever get any shorter...
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Ahhh haha getting into the long shelf-life food and I discover I failed to bring a can opener. No tomatoes for me
Also forgot ice during my departure but fortunately realized it right when I got to Westhaven, and could swing by the cafe at Z Pier.
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I'm from Chicago. These are not unfamiliar conditions (2+ meter seas), but they are not particularly common.
Also, the air might be warm but the lake is 900ft/280m deep and it does not warm up. Surface temps are around 65ºF/18ºC right now (https://www.glerl.noaa.gov/res/glcfs/glcfs.php?lake=m&ext=swt&type=N&hr=36 sidenote: I really miss having a gov't that obsessively tracks this data; NOAA is amazing)
We used to go by the 50-50-50 rule: 50 minutes in 50 degree water (that's 10ºC) means a 50% chance of survival.
Lot of sailing deaths this year. Be safe out there, folks.
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prone paddleboard bro pulled out, sadly
he went aground and re-injured some old injuries, I think? he's 64, so the fact that he made it anywhere at all is SO impressive. I'm totally in love with this race, and super keen to do it sometime as well. if anyone is putting a team together, let me know! 
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ohhhh no! I thought it was rough when I had to take my mom to the emergency optometrist for supergluing her eye shut (turns out superglue can come in little bottles that are identical to eye drops). That was solved by a lot of vaseline.
I hope you recover fully!
And yes... how?!
Current achievements: 3 coats of primer and a sanded hull that's now back bobbing around in seawater. I hauled out yesterday and was just about to open the tin of antifoul when the storm that had been threatening Auckland made good on its threats and shat all over Merc, me, and my best-laid plans. the fellow who booked the floating dock this morning was unable to shift his booking later, so I had to re-launch at my scheduled time and re-book the dock for the afternoon. I have a feeling I'm about to spend more on this than it would have cost to pay someone to do it. I'd like to go back to sailing other people's boats now please, hahaha.
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I resisted a lot of really bad jokes for the title...
So, I posted about this last year (http://crew.org.nz/forum/index.php/topic/14945-reinforcing-mast-base/) and promised everyone it was the next thing on my list to repair, and here I am making good on that promise, 7 months later...
To recap quickly: my mast has compressed the spine of my kauri boat and is modelling itself after the leaning tower of Pisa. It makes for interesting pointing.
I got a lot of great advice in my last thread and have opted to cut out the compressed wood and replace with a new piece.
But... I don't know where I can source the piece of hardwood from. Its dimensions are 25x140mm and I'm guessing anything over 500mm in length will do? (pic in the original thread; obligatory, "metric system is hard, base-12 measurements for life, USA-USA-USA," goes here).
I've found a couple websites for wood recyclers (kauri warehouse was one), which I'd be happy to use if it will work. No qualms about buying new; I just like recycling
New or used, I'm not 100% sure where to purchase the materials and would appreciate your suggestions!Thanks!
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couple weeks ago I was working late on bored when I started hearing similar noises, though to a far lesser extent. best bit was when I could hear one thumping against the hull. almost made me not want to install the stereo system...
(I bought speakers the next day)
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I've got Musto. I purchased the previous season's jacket on clearance from waveinn.com, and (touch wood) and it's currently on year 4 (racing 1-2 or more times per week) with no sign of weakening.
When I was ocean racing, most people had HPX. They all agreed it was amazing when things got really hairy, but somewhat overkill for everything else. I think you will be fine in MPX considering what you're looking to do. Maybe go and try it on at a chandlery and see?
This post has reminded me again that I need new bibs... Sigh. Goodbye, paycheck. I hardly knew thee.
Oh, and if you don't care about colour you can usually get white at a discount because it stains pretty much immediately.
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https://livesaildie.com/david-witt-speaks-out-regarding-the-leg-7-tragedy/
this is not an easy watch
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only the best, Zozza
A life raft to save me from my life raft.
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a "raft " that inflates inside the boat and keeps it afloat thereby making it unnecessary to abandon ship.
those are some great highdeas if I ever read any!
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or outboard sheeting? I can't see a second set of cars though...
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I have done a decent amount of international travel with my lifejacket and had no issues. Sometimes I took the cartridges out and left them on top of the jacket in a plastic baggie (looking at you, American TSA), other times I left them "plugged in." Once I left my knife attached to the jacket (grateful I didn't end up in Malaysian jail for that one...)
This is all to say, YMMV, especially considering this is my experience with a jacket, not a raft.
You can always ring the airlines or airport and ask what their requirements are for liferafts. I'm not surprised they're strict, but you'd think they could relax a bit considering it's safety gear very similar to what a plane will already have on board.
Sidenote: I would willingly throw myself overboard if it meant cuddles from either Branson or Theron...
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Okahu Hard Stand meeting
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yesterday's meeting was a full house too. not standing-room-only like last November's, but every chair was taken yesterday.
yes, we have work to do to make sure the hardstand is re-established in the most effective way possible. it was a massive accomplishment to even get the board to listen. huge thanks to everyone who has put their time into this effort.