MrWolf

It'll make it impossible for me too !

Its not the ideal time to be making comments such as these.

Russell Why can't you get to the pub until 6 ? You have time to post this uninformed drivel on here !

Can I please take your 50' Proa for a sail, PLEASE Rob. I would love to sail it for you in this years Coastal if the trial sail pans out. I have checked my previous posts in fairness to you and feel in the main part there is little personal attack and some very useful information there.Some of the initial "doubt" is actually directed at claims by David that there would be a 700kg, 50 foot proa in last years coastal that was going to spank every one. I expected you would not like to meet me because I am very loud when I disagree with someone and can often times be unconcionably rud

Rob It may not come across that we all do wish you well, we are all keen to see more multi's out racing. And a budget version of a 50 footer will be an awesome sight and if it consistently beats Taeping that is fantastic. I really do wish you all the best.

I am actually really looking forward to seeing the Proa racing, in fact I just can't wait. It would be great to have a bunch of them sailing. But for you to come away from a club night with 4 confirmed orders. Mate you have done very well there. A lot of people talk about it at club night but never actually go on to do anything about it, and we all know times out there are very tough so even though some people may have the best of intentions in the world you may not get quite as many of them sailing as you wish. Budgets: Rob all your budgets and costs never allow for your tim

On a more serious note I did ask Murray Jones (Alinghi) how much of their budget and time they used in investigating a Proa instead of a cat or a tri. The answer was they did not view the Proa as a serious option. I will speculate on just a few possible reasons why. Think of a Tuna swimming in the water. Its body shape is very streamlined. Its far from symmetrical at both ends. asking your hull and foils to go both ways through the water ,they simply cannot be as efficient. Rig: I don't like your rig. The other AC boats have stays, I think there are some good reasons for

Now back to your first match racing scenario: unfortunately for you the on the water jury has ruled against you and your sallyproa as you have not afforded Taeping reasonable room and opportunity to keep clear. (By the way your smugness and over confidence has gone down badly with the International jury as well) So you have to complete a penalty turn. Rules are a 360 turn including 1 tack and one gybe. So we know you don't do those, although I know you can. anyway, rules are rules, so no shunting allowed. I'm thinking as you complete your circle that the mainsheet i

Rob please do not take it any other way than we are just having a bit of a laugh. we aren't stupid and know you have heaps of really good ideas, and power to weight is the king and on that front you will be very hard to beat. But we are allowed to speculate and a little humour at times can be good for the soul.

Cat 5 YNZ Safety regulations, clause 7.4 (M): "A multihull yacht shall possess sufficient windward ability and assurance of coming about in bad conditions to enable her to tack away from a lee shore or other extensive obstruction" Tell me this, when you shunt do you not go backwards (to leeward) at some point ? So based on the above you can't get cat 5 in NZ, so too bad for you all the boastful statements you are making can't be tested because you won't be allowed to race. As to the Americas cup being in Proas, mate take a look at yourself !

Don't keep talking it up ! Just get on with it, and do it. You are so full of hot air it is ridiculous. I don't even think a Proa can get cat 5 safety certificate. Because any multihull must be able to show sufficient windward capability to be able to tack off a lee shore in a strong breeze. No mention there of shunting eh ! Looks like you're screwed before you even begin

Take a look at the damage, its on the hard at Okahu. The area damaged isn't under water when it happens. The furthest anything goes under the water righting it is only about 3 metres (possibly 5 psi), and there is no other damage to any other sealed hulls ? Where as the damage is a classic egg shell compressive failure ! Plus I imagine in a water pressure explosion as soon as there is one small hole the pressure would equalise quite quickly ?

Wrong Jordan. This was a compressive failure, we know this because the break is inwards. Not an outward explosion like you describe. There is a risk associated with "egg Shell" methods of construction such as Tortured ply, this is what happens when they fail. If the hole were due to the pressure difference, it would be an inward break would it not.? Plausable explanation i think? I would never have expected a hole such as that, cracks and splits sure but that hole is interesting. I cannot work out how you would place those two surfaces under sufficient compressive load to

Looks like its going to be at least 3 months before wolfy is sailing again

Wrong Jordan. This was a compressive failure, we know this because the break is inwards. Not an outward explosion like you describe. There is a risk associated with "egg Shell" methods of construction such as Tortured ply, this is what happens when they fail.

They righted it end over end. The Main beam is quite far aft on Wolfy, so it has very little leverage just as its coming up, so I'd guess that's what caused it. i don't know of any tri's righted sideways, they just drag across the surface of the water. To stop it dragging they had two guys sitting on each float to hold it down so ther back would dig in, then after that happens the bow can lift out. They broke some very heavy rope so i'd guess they are seeing in the region of 6 tonnes of load.

They sent it, and it went arse over bow. No waves were required just a plenty strong gust.

The hole was caused as the boat was being righted, and it caused by the massive amount of compression between the centre of buoyancy and the beam on which the bridle was attached. The boom also only broke at the very last instant of being righted. The outside of the boat the hole is the full side of the boat around 2m long and is far worse than the photo's on the site.

For the life of me I cannot see why Fullfoil is making comments such as those. I am very grateful for all the help in getting wolfie upright again. Adam and Russell off Taeping went out of their way to help the Coastguard who were just awesome. No one should criticise any of the crew, they have all the sailed the boat many times before. I had complete faith in them when I lent them my boat, and I am even more impressed by all of their characters right now, I couldn't have left my boat in better hands. In Kate we are very lucky to have a super experienced multihull crew who punches mi

Pity for me, I would have liked to meet you. . No you wouldn't !

Pity for who ? Anybody who would like to know the price of a Hall Spar mast section for an 8.5 who is genuinely in the market for one is most welcome to call us up. Quoting on a rig package is a time consuming process that for us begins with an engineering analysis of the boat we are quoting the rig for. 8.5's are not all the same and each requires a custom rig solution. Good luck for your article.

"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose " Kris Kristofferson

I am glad you had a nice time.

For what its worth, there is some good advice on here. Basically the Nova was designed with the large overlapping genoa you currently have. It needs that sail to get performance in lighter airs.I think a lot of sailing in Auckland is done in less than 15 knots and hence that big genoa will more than pay its way. As the breeze increases you can get away with a number 2, similar hoist, shorter foot. I think the correct solution is not so much to cut down the old sail size (as you can probably do with the power in a majority of the sailing you are likely to do) but rather to make the