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    Alan Write variant sails and design.

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    I was wondering if anyone knew where to get information about the Alan Write Variant?
    I want to find out the rig and sails plan designed for the boat. Ours has a pretty long boom which I guess keeps the center of effort low but I am not sure if how it is on our boat is correct for the boat. I would love to get hold of the original design specs.. also weights and all the details about it.. I cant seem to find the info with a general internet search.. Anyone know where I can get info about that boat.. ?

    Thanks in advance!

    13 year old with Variant 22.5 foot

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    8 minutes ago, Fish said:

    .... If your 13 has aspirations of solo RNZ, then there is a good solo series run by Richmond. This culminates in the Route 66 race to Marsden Cove. Wont be ready for that now, but something for a young man to aspire to, and most likely perfectly achievable if he has done a lot of offshore passages etc.

    Thanks!! can one join any club and race in other clubs? How does that work? Must one join every club you wish to race in.. is that allowed?
    This is great info and yes those solo and short handed races sound really our kind of thing.. if they don't I could also find myself stealing off on the baby boat for an easy spin.. .. finding the idea of racing longer distance quite exciting myself... little boat feels like toy town. 
    To do the coastal classic do you need a track record of sort? I have done it on other peoples boats 2x but it was a hop on and go. I see you can even enter that in a 6.5 knots. 

    13 year old with Variant 22.5 foot

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    TazzyDevil
    That is a great idea! yea!  He did crew for a short time from Hobsonville while we were refitting the big boat and did enjoy that.
    The only issue I see is the inability to commit to every weekend as we live a few hours away and are not there every weekend.

    13 year old with Variant 22.5 foot

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    1 hour ago, Fish said:

    You and the boys would be more than welcome at Weiti. Strewth, we even let a C class cat race with us, so they don't feel left out. Been doing that for a number of years now. Don't forget these are all handicap races. Once you understand that, you understand that if you sail well you can get a trophy.

    Sounds really great ! Bit of a sail from Hobson but if they get into it enough could be a possibility to move the boat. We have both the boats together in Auckland and we live in Raglan area so the drive is not too hectic. Thanks for the info!

    13 year old with Variant 22.5 foot

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    1 hour ago, whitepointer said:

    Be sure to have a good read of the fine print with insurance policy, ie racing cover, wouldnt want to T bone an expensive racing yacht. 

    Yea .. but by the time they race I hope they will be skilled enough to have a good time and not go around ramming boats. We are fully insured with the little boat insured for 5 mill libility and compensation.. We will be adequately insured and a skill set capable of being as safe as they can be in a fun competing way .. 

    13 year old with Variant 22.5 foot

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    37 minutes ago, mattm said:

    Are you saying they know how to sail but have never raced?
    If that’s the case, there is a benefit in dinghy sailing you won’t get in keelers. Basically, they are geared up for teaching.  Dinghy clubs will have a chase boat, and a learn to sail course which morphs into learn to race and the rules. Once racing, a chase boat can help with basic sailing, and there’s fleets where it’s expected many are still learning rules, so much assistance is offered. Crashes typically aren’t expensive and repairs if required are easy and quick (relatively). In keel boats, there will be less people nearby to help, typically less help offered, and an expectation to know and understand the rules, so as to avoid costly and time consuming repairs - even if insurance covers the cost, no one wants to be without a boat for months awaiting it being fixed. 
     

    Are you intending to race with them, or drop them off at the marina with their lunch? Your post is unclear. 

    We sail around in our 41 footer, they will sail around with us. They have done opti sailing. We want them to be able to cruise and once they are confident then we thought racing for fun would be a great way to sharpen the skills. The 13 year old has a day skippers ticket, VHF and HF licence and 8000+ cruising miles at least and is a well competent crew on the 41 footer. We are not aiming for a racing career but only to be good sea men and sailors and well ready to inherit the 41 footer so that they can feel competent to sail anywhere in the world they wish to go with the ability to maintain the boat well. That is our aim.

    13 year old with Variant 22.5 foot

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    1 hour ago, Adrianp said:

    Hi Sea Eagle - Adrian here from Lady Nada - Pity we're all not back at Vuluga like last year.

    Hey Hey !! Yea!100% we scheming already !! bloody cold .. dream of being back in those blue water and warm weather! lucky we did it last year !!!
    Thanks for that I will check them out and see how far the club is from Hobson Bay 💫 I think racing with other keen people will teach loads :-)

     

    13 year old with Variant 22.5 foot

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    So if they raced they would not be included and just be tagging along and not get any results.. ? forgive me I have 50k offshore miles but know nothing of sailing with a club or racing for fun.
    Dinghies are no fun sailing to Barrier for a week...or spending the night at Waikheke - Dingy racing looks like its horribly wet and horribly cold .. not our thing in the least which is why we bought a mini keel boat.
    Oh well maybe we will just give up on the possibility of racing then if it is pointless.. what a pity .. the child wants to be the youngest to sail around NZ and wants to race single handed keel boats .. its a shame that there is no take up for small keel boat racing :-( 
     

    13 year old with Variant 22.5 foot

    in RaceTalk

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    Hi

    Just bought our kids 13 (with a day skipper ticket and big boat experience) a Variant.

    I'd like 13,10 boys to join a club and race saturday or sunday once they get the hang of it. Then longer races in time. We are only in Auckland on weekends.

    Located Hobson Bay,Auckland IMG_20200713_090524_979.jpg.028cbe29e39949bde33f8988395b4c3b.jpg

    Please advise clubs that would suit and how to get 'into it'

    Thanks in advance

    Variant sail ability

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    1 hour ago, Fish said:

     Horse for course. Hank on sails are substantially cheaper than furler sails to buy... hence we have a good selection of them.

    How old are your kids?

    Kids 13,10. Boys. 13 yo has VHF,HF license and coastguard day skipper. Super keen, Hope's to race but only been involved with over 36 foot and mostly long distance sailing. So new to small boat sailing but totally has concepts and basic col regs. 10 yo marginally interested but keen to be involved and crew to a degree.. helming and loves chart work.

    They will be a great team if it worksIMG_20200713_090524_979.jpg.f5707fcbb3784ef9a964711c4a0de41c.jpg out!

    13 dreams of single handing around NZ

    I'm a single hander by nature and bad teacher to kids so hope he joins a club to get advice and inspiration from other than an impatient mother 😅

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    Variant sail ability

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    8 minutes ago, Fish said:

    I've no experience of the variant, but in terms of max wind speed, the biggest factor is the state of the sails, not the design of boat. If the sails are old and baggy, wind gives greater heeling force and less forward drive, so every time a puff hits, the boat heels over. With good sails, it will accelerate forward. With bad sails, you might find 15 knts uncomfortable. With good sails, 25 knts could be fine. It also depends on the size of sails, and if / when you reef them. If in doubt, reef early.

    You confidence and ability will likely be the limiting factor for some time, rather than the boats ability (sail condition not withstanding).

    On the same aspect, if its windy, flatten the sails as much as possible, halyard tension etc. If its light and you want more power, let them bag out a bit. If it is windy, you can 'twist out' the tops of the sails to spill power too. On headsails you move the car back, with mainsails you lift the traveller up and ease the mainsheet a bit. Obviously you boat needs the ability to adjust these things to do that though.

    1 hour ago, Island Time said:

    Thanks re sail advice! It has a rollerfurler which seems not a great idea ..small sail high up.. light boat. Would you advise going to hank on sails?

     

    Hey Thanks!

    Bought the boat for our kids to learn. They have grown up on 36 + 41 ft but I never hand over to them totally so they have reached their cap. We hope to have them sailing around with us alongside our 41 footer up and down the coast ..Barrier from Auckland. We are all excited for this new type of sailing and advancing the kids skills in fixing too. Offshore sailing teaches resilience but not very sharp sailing skills 💫

    Variant sail ability

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    We have just bought a variant and we are wondering what is it's sail abiliy and what conditions would be considered max ? Wind speed, wave height? Anyone know the hull speed and average speed ? Any technical info on this boat would be appreciated.

    Thank you

    Sailing from Europe to NZ. Best route?

    in MarineTalk

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    Come for dinner - my husban French :)

    I'll give you all the world ( electronic charts and programs needed

    For free - dig them off the hard drive :)

    Can tell you what Iv experienced Atlantic crossings - South Indian Ocean crossing- Caribbean-

    Have loads of friends around West Atlantic at moment and others who have done it in the last 5 years-

    Who would be happy to offer other advise-

     

    You welcome to my time and I could tell you what Iv experienced - use or loose-

     

    Ps why do you fly Cabrina ?

    We fly north - and Naish - when we had time to kite :)

    Sailing from Europe to NZ. Best route?

    in MarineTalk

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    Just call me- I'll give you all info and time you need-

    I have 44000 NM ocean sailing-

    Iv spent 52 days at sea not seeing another boat or anything -

    In a loaded tractor of a boat-

    I can offer some pointers :) if you wish- waaayyyyy toooo much for a forum

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