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Thanks guys, I'll give Katie a bell. I'll also try further up the Weiti as I'm hopefully hauling the boat up at Fusion on the 28th Oct.
BP, thanks for the offer, may be that I can find enough rope!
Cheers,
Dave
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Hi all,
I'm looking for a temporary mooring for a 9.2m trimaran drawing 0.5m from around 19th to the 28th Oct. Ideally in the Weiti River but will take anything that might be out there.
Thanks in advance,
Dave
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So, I've managed to find myself a trimaran but am struggling to find anyone to provide insurance. Apparently Vero don't underwrite trimarans anymore.
Any suggestions please?
Cheers,
Dave
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She was on TM towards the beginning of the year, but not sure if the boat was sold. Given my run of luck lately I'd say she probably has.
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So...I've had an 'interesting' few months in my tri search. Not good.
Does anyone know what happened to Hyper? I'm back to square one so all options are on the table. (Except the B33 on TM, no offense!!)
Dave
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Hi Greg, thanks for your reply, your boat looks lovely and I really like the colour scheme, reminds me of an Italian sports car...nice.
Those Aussie tris (Trilogy, Hasta la Vista) are pretty tasty looking aren't they? Seem to be out and out race boats though and that's intimidating for me, whilst I'm keen to get into a bit of casual racing (if there's such a thing) I reckon those boats would be a real handful for a multi noob like me. Plus the upkeep of the go fast gear I suspect would be pretty dear.
The F36 is more to my liking, and with the price drop she's on my radar now. I can't imagine the boat will hang around for too long at that price though.
You're bang on about the C34 being cruisier, it was marketed as a C34SC (Sports Cruiser) and appears to have been built to compete with the Corsairs and Dragonflys, which didn't go so well for them unfortunately. Apparently though, in the right conditions and sailed well it could keep up with the F/C 31s, although that does seem a bit hopeful to me. What I like about them is they appear to have a very generous freeboard and the floats have something like 200% bouyancy, so I'd assume they are a bit drier than other tris, and maybe a bit more forgiving of a ham fisted driver. Being a folder is a "nice to have" I think, although I do prefer the in plane fold rather than the Farrier style from the perspective of leaving the boat folded in the water for a bit.
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Thanks IT, that's the boat. That site isn't marvellous though, the POP Yachts site has better piccies. How do you post links as you did above please?
Dave
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Thanks Greg, I'd seen the massive price drop on the F36, 80K! Makes you wonder what that was all about. It does put it into my price bracket but I think the boat is a bit "cruisier" than what I'm looking for, happy to be corrected of course. The F33 does look pretty tasty but even at that price it'll still be NZ$220K to sail it over and probably $250K+ to get it shipped.
I've been sniffing around a Contour 34 in Hawaii, I'd post the link but don't know how to unfortunately, can anyone help with that as I'd really appreciate your opinions.
By the way, can I ask what's the tri in your profile picture please?
Cheers
Dave
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Yep the lack of a head is a deal breaker for the missus. Mind you, at the speeds this thing does I'd be kitted out in man nappies for sure!
I'd hope it gets picked up by someone, just think, at max chat it would do the Coastal in two hours!!
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Nice, thanks Ed. Did you get my txt?
Cheers,
Dave
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Thanks TL, I was out west yesterday as it happened so popped by the marina, sadly an empty berth where the B40 should have been. Google maps still showed that she lives there (stalker, much?!) so maybe she was out for a sail, was a nice day yesterday. There was a thread on boatdesigns or some such regarding the one at Okahu bay but that was a few years ago, they're not the same boat are they?
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Thanks for that, I went back and had a re read of the review of Ladyhawk and wow, what a beautiful boat. Hard to believe she's nearly 20 years old! As you pointed out, a new build of that type of trimaran would be eye watering today. I'm not sold on the folding tri's either, certainly the C36 has a chequered history I believe, but I do like the layout of those boats. Also seems that apart from the complexity, the folding mechanisms do add cost.
I think that for me Blaydon Racer would be a bit much boat, but she is on my radar at the moment, certainly the price point looks right. I really like the open cockpit concept, Ladyhawk's seems huge which really appeals. It seems the older tri's aren't designed that way, but I'm happy to be corrected.
Thanks for the offer of a visit, if I'm ever down your way I'll make sure to come by, I'll bring the beers!
Cheers,
Dave
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Thanks all, great suggestions and comments. In relation to the previous posts and in no particular order:
Ladyhawk: Read that article last year, if my current investments come through, as they are bound to do (Lotto, and an offer from a nice gentlemen in a West African country whom I met on the interwebs) then she would be the kind of boat I'd be into like a flash. For the meantime though, way out of my price range I suspect.
Blaydon Racer: A beautiful looking trimaran which has obviously been very well looked after. For me though, I think the maintenance effort would be considerable and also, as I'm looking for a boat I could single hand occasionally she does look a bit tricky with the ketch rig.
Hyper: Interested in this boat and probably most aligned with my wish list from those I've seen over the last year. Concern I have is that she needs TLC and I'm unsure how the Duracore has lasted over the years. If anyone knows the boat I'm interested in their opinion.
Farrier/Corsair: F32/33 or C36/37 would be right at the top of my list but as I think someone mentioned, they are a bit pricey, which is nice if you own one but not so much if you are looking for one. I would assume around NZ$200K?
There was a Crowther Buccaneer 33 (I think) that was on TM last year, does anyone know the boat and/or be able to comment. I don't think she sold and is in West Harbour.
Anyhoo, really appreciate the input from everyone, many thanks!
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I agree that the Newick is an interesting looking boat but isn't really for me, I like the idea of nets to lounge around on! Also keeping an eye on the Aussie and US market but it would have to be a steal to make it worthwhile shipping (NZ$20-30k from Oz, 30-45K from the US). On top of that is 20% GST and import duty. If I could find one I could sail over that might be an option...
It does seem that with trimarans there's either out and out racers or chunky cruisers but not much middle ground, is that a fair comment?
The search continues...
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Hi Ed, many thanks for the post. I suppose I should have provided more context; I grew up sailing on monos, from dinghies to keelers and was actively racing until my twenties. Mate and I rebuilt a GBE in the 90's (Hooters, I think she's still around) and that sold me on multis. Life then got in the way and I haven't really been sailing for a long, long time. Mid life crisis now and I want to get back out on the water, not interested in, and can't afford a condomaran, so would ideally like a boat that the wife would consider going out on (see criteria above!) Hence the trimaran search. I have no experience sailing tri's but have been keeping an active eye out for a year or so now, love the Youtube!
I was interested in Hyper but it seemed a bit of work, someone else may wish to add their 2 cents on the boat and it's current state. She does seem to be a bit cheap for what she is? I am keeping an eye on the Aussie market but as you pointed out, shipping is expensive (20-30k) so I'd be looking at a boat I could sail across the ditch. (I'm even contemplating a Contour 34 that's up in Hawaii!)
So, this is a bit lengthy but ideally I'd like something along the lines of an F32/33 size and capability wise. I think I'm in the right place here, there seems to be a heap of experience and I'm keen for any advice or leads on a suitable boat.
Once again many thanks for chiming in, much appreciated!
Cheers,
Dave
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Hi all,
I'm keen to get into a trimaran if possible. I've been looking around for a while and there doesn't appear to be many available, and those that are don't fit my requirements. Which are:
30ft-40ft
Dry(ish)
Quick(ish)
Enclosed head
Reasonable (for a trimaran) accommodation
Planning on doing a bit of cruising and possibly some relaxed racing. Any and all suggestions welcome!
Thanks in advance,
Dave
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Thanks Paul (assuming that's right), I've tried Bailey's with no luck unfortunately. I'm currently waiting on Chris at Marsh to see how he gets on. It seems as though the relative!y small number of multis, and particularly trimarans, has an adverse effect on the risk assessment for the type of boat proportionally.
It would be beneficial if the industry would identify the particular risk for insuring a multi so I could exclude it. As an example, I've told all the brokers I've spoken to that I'm happy to exclude capsize and breakage if that helps, I just want cover for things like theft, fire and damage due to external factors. I'd assume that these are the 'normal' risks for insuring any boat.
Reading over the above seems like a bit of a rant! I'm new to yacht ownership so learning as I go. Some lessons not to my liking though...
Cheers,
Dave