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Worksafe have no authority over a pleasure craft/non-commercial vessel. There may be some applicability to marinas and their risk management of gas on boats in their facility.
My boat doesn't meet NZ regs, but it simply means my insurance doesn't cover any issue or accident caused by the gas system. Seems fair.
I am baffled overall however with how uptight insurers are getting with long standing customers with well maintained or at least somewhat maintained boats. Yet there's zero requirements or restrictions on experience, training, qualifications, or any general suitability to be in command of a boat. I'm sure insurance companies do plenty of analysis of the risk they're holding and the nature of claims, but from what I've seen a majority of vessel-loss accidents are seaworthy vessels being driven onto rocks, bad weather, other boats, etc.
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A few people I know who've suffered serious head injuries in the past wear helmets or bump caps, more because they're vulnerable to even minor head knocks now.
The yachting deaths in the past 10 years or so fall into three categories. Falling overboard/boat sinking, falling overboard from a dinghy going back to the boat (usually not technically classified as a yachting death), and being struck during a gybe. The fact those gybe related deaths are almost always due to the sheet is interesting. Suggests the discipline of staying low isn't being extended to not working in the sheet-arc when off the wind. I know I've been guilty ("if we start to gybe I'll move" - "sh*t! gyyy" - *bang* - "oh sh*t that was close")
I've seen someone thrown by a sheet during a crash gybe. Took her a very long time to fully recover.
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Water quality discussion aside, I'm continually stunned by how terrible the Predict Wind tracker is. If I get auto-scrolled to the coast of Sri Lanka one more time I think I'm done. No ability to filter by divisions, no boat type, a number of trackers with the skipper's name not the boat (that's not the software's fault but still). Painful.
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4 hours ago, waikiore said:
I wonder if Akarana will let them finish in our polluted harbour -Friday afternoon?
They can get a haul out at The Landing for a hose down... oh wait...
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Great boats. I haven't even sailed mine yet and I love it. Can't imagine getting any more useable space out of a moderately sized 40-fter than the 1220 does either.
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4 hours ago, LBD said:
That is certainly a problem with the WC Daldy... constant exposure to the corrosive marine environment. The Earnslaw has the benefit of living in freshwater with minimal corrosion. That said, the Earnslaw was suffering from corrosion from the inside out, in the area of the boilers where the sulfur from the coal formed acids. There was also a lot of corrosion from the stock carrying days when the bilges were contaminated with stock urine. Back around 2003, we replaced a good measure of the hull plating, welding in new sections. Interesting that the original steel for plating and rivets was the same vintage as the Titanic but was made in Australia. When I some etched and analysed it we found the Australian product was good and ductile, and not suffering from the same brittleness as the steel used for the Titanic.
Another interesting trivia from those days... removed plating had clear un-corroded numbers written on them. These were identifying plate numbers from the yard in Dunedin where see was built (Disassembled and reassembled in Kingston)... the numbers had been painted on using white lead paint.
Shoveling coal?... the Earnslaw is one ton per hour if you are up to it... good exercise. There was talk back then of changing away from coal however there were concerns around the effect that a higher temp lean burning fuel would have on the old riveted locomotive boilers. I know the old paddle steamer on Lake Geneva has converted away from coal, but I do not know if the original boilers were replaced.
Interesting stuff! Thanks for sharing that. I'd thought about applying to work on Earnslaw 15+ years ago. I'd learnt a lot from former engineering staff, examiners etc who'd worked on her. Most I ever shovelled on a railway locomotive was just short of 2 tons in a day... so would have been a step up hahah.
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My family own a traction engine, and just running that isn't cheap. I don't know the exact numbers but a day's hard running on the road only burns a couple hundred kilos of coal. I hate to think of the cost of running a fairly large steel steam ship. At least with a rail locomotive you can park it for a few years and it doesn't really deteriorate.
I have always wanted to spend some time on a shovel in the engine room of a steam ship though...
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I'm pretty left leaning in general (sorry) but the idea that the tiny pin prick of emissions from heritage machinery should change their operation because of climate change considerations seems ridiculous to me. Although I've shovelled many tons of coal into 100+ year-old boilers over the years so I'm biased.
Making any heritage steam operation work financially is very very difficult. Most volunteer rail operations are struggling to keep their steam locomotives running, except for a handful of very well run ones like Steam Incorporated out of Wellington. Add the complexity of hull maintenance, survey requirements, compliance costs etc, it must be very very difficult to keep a steam vessel operating, Earnslaw being the only successful one I can think of.
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1 hour ago, marinheiro said:
Not alot more info. At that time Wrighty was churning out designs almost as fast as Richard Hartley and Frank Pelin, the plan business was very lucrative in those days. There were a few more built including the original "Transit". Design looks to be a mix of Townson and Lidgard hull and cabin shapes
Gemini was a twin keeler, built for Jim Varney, one time Auckland Harbour Master and Cat 1 Inspector. There was a Sea Spray feature in the early 70's on her which I have in my magazine
hoardarchives, I can send you a scan when I get back to NZ in a couple of months if you cannot find one before.Nice thank you, that'd be really awesome. Definitely a lot of Townson influence, although I prefer the window shape to the Townson elliptical ones. Very much a family resemblance to the Nova when out of the water too, just scaled up a lot.
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On 29/08/2023 at 2:44 PM, marinheiro said:
the first boat(white hull and decks) is a Townson 30, "Magic Flute" design. The blue yacht is an Alan Wright "Transit" design.
Wright's early designs Nova, Variant, Nerissa and others certainly had some Townson influence.
Do you have any more info on the Transit designs? The Wrighty book didn't go into much detail.
There's another Dennis Bettany built boat in there called Gemini that looks almost exactly the same, except being 35ft and a bilge keeler. Those photos of her being launched with the blue hull (long since changed to white) were sent to me by Dennis a couple years ago.
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A one-off Alan Wright design. Sold without builder or build year known, but I managed to track the builder down and he shared some old photos which was really fantastic. Hasn't been Flying Cloud for a number of years, and I would have changed her back but the current sign writing is quite nice.
Standard keel.
Sadly for sale soon as I've gone larger and plastic-ier.
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Any idea what year that would be?
My current boat is much older than I am, but a picture of her being transported for launching in 1973 or 1974.
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Sorry shouldn't joke. That's really disappointing the harbourmaster doesn't want to help before it becomes a bigger problem.
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Na mate, just doing the anodes and then we'll be back into the cruise. Benefits of turning it into a bilge keeler. (A no-keeler?)
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I'd say K4309 may have it there. It's good to remember that the Earth's magnetic field isn't parallel to the ground in most of the world (magnetic dip), and so compasses are weighted to compensate to hold them roughly parallel to the ground. There can be different weightings for different regions.
That's the reason why when flying a plane using a magnetic compass you learn to compensate for the momentum of that weight during a turn. On some heading the compass will spin ahead, and on other's it will lag. Likewise when accelerating or decelerating it's will move the compass on some headings. Trippy stuff.
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I'd check, some recycling bins specifically say no waste fuel.
We used to burn old bunker oil from ships in an oil burning rail locomotive, it was good stuff, thick as tar but with a ton of energy. Most of the oil burning engines running on the main line (ours was pretty much the only non-mainline preservation oil burner) burn diesel, which doesn't quite seem right.
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So is the long term vision to just have the Viaduct Marina remain for a few glamour boats and to keep a "City of Sails" facade? I find it staggering that a yacht club would support closing the stand when options are diminishing across the city.
Out of interest I had a look at the Viaduct marina website and noticed there were no fees displayed. Guess it's a "if you have to ask you can't afford it" scenario?
*edit* cancel that, found them. The "can't afford it" part was correct.
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VCR? Ah that's your problem then, Beta or VHS?
Hilarious. Seriously though, that's basically my setup, and I've had the same issue in the past with sluggish start when out sailing for a few hours. I've assumed it was a dodgy earth return from the engine, and that when I was sitting at 13+ volts fresh off the charger/alternator it was OK, but as the start battery settled at 12.8v or whatever it became more of a problem.
That's a only guess though, and I haven't been out since replacing my connections and cables. Would love to hear from more knowledgeable people.
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I've suspected a over representation of kayaks and SUPs in some NZ research, although survey companies always try and weight things to avoid that. Technically if you pay $10 at a camp ground to use their sit-on-top it's a commercial operation and shouldn't be included above, but even though researchers attempt to make that clear to survey participants I don't think it always clicks.
The important distinction between my personal boats types is that I have both a kayak and a yacht >6m, and I've owned them roughly the same amount of time. In that time I've spent exactly $0 on the kayak, whereas I've poured tens of thousand of dollars into local businesses for work, equipment, and materials for the yacht.
Like general aviation, it can appear like a rich person's game that takes up space that could be used for more profitable or public friendly things, until it's gone and the value is more apparent. The Wellington Aero Club was kicked out of it's old home years ago and barely survived, all to make room for a hangar for Peter Jackson's private jet that he sold a couple of years later anyway. When I walk through the airport I often run into Air NZ pilots who were instructors at Wellington and got their job at the airline based off the hours of teaching they did with the club.
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I'd find the manual online for your furler if you can. My one turned out to have all sort of hidden holes you were meant to put grease in. I used a small plastic syringe on mine which worked well, although the furler still sucks hahaha.
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I have a lot of respect for what Dalts has achieved in his own racing and with ETNZ. However, language like that "talk to someone sensible" reminds me of a bully who is used to getting their own way. As you said, the ratepayers will likely foot the bill, and if indeed the city holds the risk then I'd support anyone who tells him to get stuffed.
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The Spanish team defending the America's Cup should be able to afford a pretty nice event in Auckland with all that extra sponsorship money they've opened up by moving to Europe right? Right? They're not going to expect a small city like Auckland no longer directly involved to pay, right? Right?
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3 hours ago, Black Panther said:
2 packs are great until it's time to sand them again
My hope would be it would last long enough so that the next owner is the one to have to sand it!
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I've used Altex Timbercote on my boat's fairly extensive exterior timber. Very easy to apply, looks great, but is ultimately a traditional varnish that needs 1000 coats and starts to look a bit tatty after 18 months.
I've seen some fantastic looking results from people using 2 pack varnishes, so finding some user stories about them would be interesting.
Gas out, induction in!
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Ah yes, understood.