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As the topic title, I attempted to build a (good looking) hard dodger to my Nova 28. Main goal to get shelter from the elements on the go, or on anchor. Keep the companionway dry, accommodate some built in equipment and provide some joy to eyes is secondary, but important too.
That's what I ended up yesterday when I trimmed the edges and made the rough positioning before painting and installing other features like built in lighting and GPS aerial, pre wiring for the solar panel....
Any professional opinion out there? (I can take criticisms, just please be gentle).
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Hi Gillian this is already an amazing story, so congratulations. You just showed another perspective of the Nova... Laziness, hmmm "we" are lot more lazy as none of us done anything like you so don't be shy to take the credit for it. By the way your site was the only source when I was thinking about to buying Waimanu (II) so I much appreciate the effort what you put in and helped me to make a (now proven) good decision. That's why I feel important to add further information and extra details of modifications, or improvements (these things are pretty subjective so everything is from the owners point of view) to help others to make their own calls... Anyway I'm just off work to make fine adjustments on the dodger, before I get it ready for installation, so this will be the first time when I put it to the boat... I'm so excited (and nervous as well) to see how is my plan works... I'll post some pictures later on today.
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Hi Gillian, thanks for dropping by and I'm pleased to hear all your work is "safe" and available again. Would you consider to accommodate introductions/descriptions about other Novas? If so I would be happy to contribute, I guess Ross (rossd) also would be kind enough to offer the same package what he sent me earlier. Please let me know your thoughts.
Are you still sailing, have you had any recent adventures? I'm planning to sail up to the sounds this summer, presumably in January.
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Hi Ross, Thanks for the documents what you sent me last year (incredible, another year just gone), I had a few things came up and the website just on hold at the moment. My son already made the core of the site but I/we have very small amount of data to share so that isn't too exciting. Probably next month he will make it accessible.
Anyway I decided to replace my old shaggy spray dodger and I had a bit of hard time to decide to renew the existing one, which wasn't quite comfortable, or build a new one. If it is a new, should it be soft or hard... Anyway I'm on the "hard " way. I know I know pros and cons... So completely custom design, foam cored composite made with vacuum bagging, with tinted/clear plexiglass windows. At the moment is ready to put on the boat for trimming back the edges (I made it slightly larger to have a bit of flexibility with positioning) so I just waiting for the weather window to do it. Then fearing, painting and ready to install. I want to do it on the dry rather than the water alongside other jobs like replacing windows and possibly install the new GEBO hatch replace the original fore deck hatch. Anyway I looking forward to hear opinions about the dodger. I'll upload some pictures when it will sit on the boat... Until that here is a link where you could see the process...
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Looks pretty. This slide type solution is lot better than any other what I seen yet. I was planing to build a hard dodger for a while and I was juggling between different designs (hard top soft screen, hard screen soft top...) but finally I decided to go for a more "traditional" way (all around solid). Sandwich composite (foam core fiberglass). I just finished the external skin and will do the inside next week. So I have a few more weeks before I can see it on the boat.
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That's really nice. Are the screens solid (like plexiglass or similar) or soft, clear removable?
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I'm in need of a spray painter that can do the underside of my hard dodger. It is about 2.1 x 1.6 m, curved. It has rolled on Interprotect, so it needs a sand and paint. I can deliver it around Auckland.
Does anyone have any good ideas? I just tried a panelbeater who was too busy, so I thought I would consult the oracle(s).
Would you mind to share a picture of your hard dodger?
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Yes the link works and this is what I was talking about. Exploring/experimenting things. Nice to buy the latest, the best but is that a challenge? Financially maybe.
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Because would be difficult to commute without drive chain... simple as that
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Good on you. You are probably the first honest hybrid owner I ever met. No mist and dust about saving the planet etc... that is a side effect.
Anyway the same thing propels me to think about electric drive on boat (even hybrid). As I have not much experience with extended cruising that's why I couldn't imagine to motor a few hundred miles so over the theory is this a real issue? In coastal conditions again my experience is limited, but our local coast (Lyttelton-Banks peninsula) I'm confident 20 mile is well enough to get away from any trouble (of course without being crazy).
I'm possibly wrong but I'm somewhere between the skipper who takes a spare engine for the trip just in case and KM who coping with his vessel on the traditional way...with success. I agree to use of artificial force to move the boat forward but not replacing the main "engine" the sails.. In this perspective the 20 mile range is reasonable.
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By way of example, I recently purchased a hybrid car. A key purchasing question was the cost of replacing the battery, having heard Pruis batteries cost circa $5k. The battery in my Honda costs $800 to replace.
So you finally decided to go for Honda (I guess Hybrid) because of the terrifying stories about the Prius replacement battery price. Respect.
We went through on the same thing a about two years ago when my son decided to go hybrid. We ended up with a very cheap ex taxi. 400k+in the clock...
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Ok I see your point... Do you have any difficulties since you become "zero energy" user?
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Range is always an issue even with IC engine and carry a couple of hundred liters of extra fuel always a hassle. Anyway I'll keep my mind on the possibilities and may start to work with numbers maybe on a rainy day. Luckily no pressure on this so I've got plenty of time. By the way KM how competitors penalized being environmentally friendly I think I missed something.
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I would like to put together a website with Nova related information mainly for myself but if I doing it make sense to keep it public.
So I calling all existing an former Nova owner if have any documentation, drawing, photos about building the boat maintenance, modifications or just stories what could share with the public, please give me a PM to arrange the details and help me to make this happen.
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Fair comments Fish. I have a mooring and I regularly sail off and on in various conditions just for fun (not too busy area so no moving "targets") and I agree with this part what you said. To offend the title it doesn't mean you have to throw everything off the boat what invented after the 18th century.
That would be a different challenge and I'm pretty sure people passionate about it.
In theory if you leave your safe port even for short trips you presumably prepared to cope with situations, like weather changes, any kind of technical difficulties and in theory you would try solve these issues with no (or very little) assistance. Well this is how I do anyway. So a reliable power system includes drive is essential. I said power system because even sailboats operates electronic devices for various tasks navigation entertaining or simply for lighting. I'm not talking about sophisticated racing machines like IMOCA 60 or record breaker multi hulls as they are even worst. So somehow this power needs to be generated and stored on board and if you have a wind generator already great, solar panels awesome but end of the day everybody (correct me if not) facing with power shortage and have to run the engine for a couple of hours to top up the "power bank".
Is it necessarily an IC engine or worth it to think about something different. I personally think yes and I guess it wouldn't consequently extremely expensive, even the electric drive manufacturers on the market suggest it.
Unfortunately we still talking about thousands so not many people will choose to spend this amount on a "project" instead of new sails or rigging or whatever needs to be done to get CAT 1.
So respect for people rowing a 38 footer but it is not quite the solution what I was looking for.
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The question is not to having engine (whatever type) or not surely people still have chance to survive without engine, but the question is, is there a real alternative for IC engine or it is still unreliable. Not having engine with size of the marine traffic these days just insane.
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Yes that was it. Not many on the market of these.
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The long range ocean race is probably need less use of the engine (apart from generating power) than a weekend sailor, like myself or some of us.
The real question pretty much answered with details and numbers. No question about to propelling in and out from a calm marina is durable with the simplest solution. How about coastal or even offshore cruising. How much engine use on a trip to the islands for example. Do you really have to motor on open waters when the wind drops?
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That's right, here comes the new technology . I know it is quite futuristic and I guess itself is not enough but combining with wind gen, and re cycling through the motor makes it a bit more reliable.
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Is there anyone have electric drive on yacht? Pros-cons? In theory more cons but the last entry about this topic in this forum more than 3 years old. Technologies changed since then and Conrad Coleman just about to prove its reliability.
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That's really generous offer partisan, I just finished to read your topic and pretty tempting... My Lombardini LDW 702 is around the same age as yours, fresh water cooled and only 280 hrs in the clock with service history. If I would change it it would be an electric drive instead of any type of internal combustion engine, for various reason (I'm pretty sure I could list up more than ten).
Anyway Is your boat is a Contessa 26? Are you doing a complete refit? How is going? C26 was on my short list and I was seriously considering to go to see one but I've got Waimanu (II) now.
I recently seen a video about a guy who sailed to Oz from UK on a Contessa 26 with a very little experience and alone of course.
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I have a question which is more general than Nova related. As I mentioned earlier I noticed how crowded the prop shaft area between the gearbox and the gland packing. Apparently I can't have access to the seal itself as not enough space to remove the cap from there. I was thinking to move the engine forward by 100-150 mm or maybe a bit more but 200mm max. I know this is quite a big job and new prop shaft and engine mount involved as well (the engine mount needs to be replaced anyway).
I also expect a small improvement in the weight distribution as well but it is not that simple. I don't have any universal joint on the shaft and I want to avoid to install one therefore the engine will move forward and up. The forward move is probably a plus with no question, but the up is maybe a minus in terms of the center of gravity of the entire boat will move up (not a lot). Well I did not calculated yet but in theory... Is there any thoughts?
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I thought Waimanu has / had a home made wooden vane SS fitted? She has recently done a NI circumnavigation, is that you?
Sorry about the misleading, was not intentional. My Waimanu is the second. So Waimanu II precisely.
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I've been a bit reluctant to get in on this post but,reading the above about tiller pilots - expensive, unreliable, power hungry, difficult if not impossible user repair, why would you even consider one for a coastal or offshore voyage when a perfectly good proven alternative exists in the form of either a trim tab or servo pendulum self steering gear?
I have an Autohelm tiller pilot. We use it whilst motoring and it works very well and of course the alternator keeps up with the current draw. But as soon as there's wind enough to sail we switch to the self steering.
Self steering is cheap. I built mine for $160 and anyone with a few tools and basic handyman skills can do the same. And if you can build it then you can repair it, at sea, in the unlikely event that the gear needs it. And of course, energy consumption is not an issue.
So I'm bound to question, why pass on a proven, reliable and cost effective means of steering the vessel in favour of an expensive, failure prone, energy hungry and generally irreparable piece of kit?
It ain't progress.
I would ask the same question, possibly another topic already exist which explain it. Artificial steering versus direct nature driven. I asking it as a newbie with no offshore experience and the answer is probably obvious. I have an ST2000 above deck, which already died once (water damage, after I dried out I cleaned the surfaces on the pcb than covered with a type of nano product which is non conductive and hydrophobic. No trouble since that (the plastic bag just a precaution). I want to get/build a wind steering device for longer solo trip even if I have to sacrifice the permanent boarding ladder on the stern.
Nice looking hard dodger on small boat-difficult (impossible) task
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Thanks guys you to confirming my feelings. Down and move it aft... I can easily lower it by 50 mm (2") but only before fiberglass it to the boat as the front cross member alone, under the middle window would be too weak. I was thinking to lower it further to cut the mentioned part and move it up, reduce the size of the middle window, but that is quite a bit of work, but still can be done in last minute... To moving aft is quite possible as well and I will consider it but I have to change the main sheet position on the boom. The boom position is set to the lowest possible position what I measured earlier, so the boom will not come lower unless something is broken... With reefing is even better as the reefs just move the boom higher. Another thing, the boom cover will be replaced for a "stack-pack" so it will keep the sail away when not in use.
Unfortunately the "joy to the eyes" part, hmm the title says everything.