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I think Waimanu was on a mooring in Deborah Bay beside our Nova "Silhouette" for a while, wondered where she had gone, now I know !
There was a post here earlier about weather helm developing quickly on the Nova. I found that too initially, but changing the headsail in plenty of time sorted that out. At first I was tempted to carry the No1 Genoa for longer than I really ought, because there didn't feel to be any risk of breaking anything, but she did become quite heavy on the helm. Started to become more proactive with my sail changes though, and the boat was far more balanced and fun to sail. That No1 Genoa on the Nova is fairly big.
Our keel was slightly modified from the standard fin, in that is slightly narrower, but a bit deeper. Was supposed to help the upwind performance, but since we never race, and I've never sailed another Nova, I can't really say whether or not it actually helped.
Yes you all right about the head sail, I have a furled one which is quite easy to furl/reef an seconds. Therefore I tending to leave it out lot longer. Also the fully battened main works great when I drop the traveller if I need. Anyway as soon have enough power to heel over (25-30 degrees) which feels great and the boat accelerates, the helm becoming a bit heavy so I have to de-power otherwise the drag increase on the rudder.
I do some racing, just because it is a great opportunity to improve myself ( I mostly doing it alone). The cruse is different. Lot less sail up, get prepared for changes, more people on board more responsibility. I prefer the second one but I learned a lot about the limits of the boat which will help to make decisions with less stress if you know what I mean.
Anyway if you in our way I'm happy to see you for a spin.
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Hi Ross this is really interesting especially to see the price at 1981. I remember that was on Alderwicj's page alongside with a comparison with Davidson 28. Thanks for sharing it
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My one is the only what I seen yet but I have limited experience with wooden versions. I also feel pretty usable, tons of space and lockers around, even under the table. Only two things a bit annoying, the ps single bed is quite narrow, I may convert the lockers and make it slightly wider. Also the chart table not in level when with the two seats so was pretty uncomfortable when we tried but that will be an easy fix with spacers.
Yes I think te fabric was really common I seen on quite a few boats .
So you think Waimanu could be a home finished one?
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This is the cabin layout what I was talking about.
Is anyone seen similar like this on Nova?
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Hi Alastair i'm happy what I can get, my assumption about higher speed with new headsail is based on the condition of my genoa. New sails always makes difference and you all right, this boat built to get through on whatever nature throw on and I'm aware of that.
By the way we sailed up from Dunedin in 35+ NW wind to Akaroa just a week before the fishing boat tragedy in the area.So I have respect for Novas. Speed? That's only one component...
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There is some boring stuff as well but you could pick the right play list.
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Congratulation. It just getting exciting from now. I guess we will hear details later on.
I was looking at Gypsy Girl from the distance and she was on my list (unfortunately that time was only one boat in Welli so the trip there was pushed away in obvious reason). I think the price for her is quite reasonable and shame how difficult to sell. She is well equipped boat and looks in better nick as Waimanu, probably the engine is the weakest point but I'm possibly wrong.
Speed... hmmm if you did that speed upwind I'm just jealous. I need about 20knts of wind to reach 6 knts of boat speed i think the new sails would help a bit (new genoa is on the list for this Christmas, I try to find sailmaker to make a traditional crousing sail) The main is lot better condition so that will be fine for the next few season.
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I'm not a Nova 28 owner but am currently the owner of another Alan Wright design a Lotus 9.2 and hopefully soon to be owner of an Oceans 12. I'd be keen to hear more about the Nova 28.
Hi Robin, seems to be you are on a same track as myself, Only difference is you doing lot faster. Good on you.
I think you already experienced how great could be an Alan Wright boat, so I only could repeat that. Definitely not the fastest especially the Nova, but I think it is a worthwhile compromise. I really like the masthead sloop as they have pretty impressive appearance. So I hope you will get your Oceans 12 soon and you could start to make you improvements on it and on your technique as well.
At this point I will keep Waimanu for a five six years at least than I'll see.
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By the chance do you know how should I contact with Neil, I was searching for a while last year but no luck. He may have some record about boats what he built or hulls what he sold with no finish.
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Yes I noticed Alderwicks page has disappeared, which is a shame as this site was the only source of information about Nova 28 apart from sailboat data which is very brief anyway.
Hi rossd, don't worry about to try the spinnaker the rig is strong enough for errors... I can tell you.
We tried already a few times and if we not looking the 10 minutes recovery time, which was spectacular indeed, we had a nice 5 minutes run before. In the other hand that specific time we gained only one extra knot (7.5 knts max) of speed against the large genoa, we had around 15knts of wind that day. So that was a success, in terms of nobody got hurt and we did not break anything. Also lots of space for improvement.
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That sounds interesting, can we hear a little bit more?
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Hi Willow thanks for the links, and apologies for the spelling mistake I'll be more cautious next time.
Both article are interesting, I think I read the Totorore story somewhere else.
It may prove it the only reason why people did not chooses Novas for longer trip because of the size and not because they are weak. Even as far I know Innovator of Mana was slightly modified for the requirements but I don't know details about the changes. Even if we talking about a production boat, everything is going back to the two main component, the build quality and ongoing maintenance. I still feel my one has one of these (not the recent caring owner). Also she already proved herself on the delivery trip from Dunedin to Akaroa (originally Lyttelton but we stopped after a bumpy ride).
I'm working on it to bring her back, even if I have no chance to win line honor trophies ever.
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Thanks IT I remember when last year before my purchase I found a website where the author mentioned Totore with relation of circumnavigation but unfortunately that site just disappeared. I hope someone will come back with stories about long distance passages, one version of my long term plan to keep her, working on her towards cat 1 and something like Chatham islands or who knows even further. I'm aware of the disadvantage of small vessels so I have plan B (C, and D) as well. Possibly something like robinm hoping to do... Yes I'm still a dreamer, but I made the first step already and fingers crossed, I will not run out of time.
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Hi thanks for the comments, great to hear others has same opinion what I have as well. I agree completely Nova is slightly under powered even I have a slightly larger main sail. Unfortunately the mast is standard so only way to grow is to lower the boom which makes a bit tight in the cockpit. I also noticed she need a decent wind to make her "fly" but I'm a bit concern about the weather helm as it could build up quite quickly. Again any advise would be much appreciated.
Back to the beginning, I purchased Waimanu II from Dunedin (used to be on a mooring in Deborah Bay) she is full fiberglass, probably from a shipyard as she has a pretty similar finish as many production boat what I seen. Would be great to know about her past but according to Alan Wright, there is no record of Novas not even hull number recorded. I hope someone could come forward with some "history". Waimanu has been re-powered with a 17hp Lombardini (positioned too much aft and not enough space to do anything with the gland packing on the prop shaft, or install a drip less shaft seal therefore I thinking about to move the engine forward about 100-150mm some point advise welcome) engine before the previous owner took her down from North. The cabin layout is a bit different than most of Nova has. I have a large chart table on starboard forward with cross benches beside look aft and forth(the table could lowered to make a comfortable berth), and galley on port side aft. Of course two quarter berth aft, beneath the cockpit and a decent forward v berth. I found this unusual layout works reasonably well for us. At this point we only doing short trips, overnights which is not bad at all.
I already stripped back the under water area to the gel coat, I didn't found anything wrong on the hull but the skeg and the rudder was in quite bad shape. Their cavity was full of water , many blisters on both so I almost re-built them. Also a complete electrical refit in progress as most of wiring was corroded, old-school light fittings just as most of old boat has.
In general i'm just happy with her and I look forward for the second season with small improvements.
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Hi all. I just wondering if any active Nova 28 owner around who interested about to share their relevant experiences with newbies like me, or even just have a talk about these boats. I know Novas are, how can I say nicely, a bit out of date now and also plenty of bad examples around, mainly caused by poor workmanship or just the lack of maintenance. In the other hand Novas are very reliable, safe boats in my opinion and quite a few worth lot more than we have to pay for them.
Of course I have a very extensive "to do list" with many dreams about upgrades....
Anyway, for the start I'm actually the owner of Waimanu II, since last year. As many novices, I also had a hard time to pick the best suit design in terms of size performance etc.
After a few months of agony I ended up to making an offer for Waimanu II, which been accepted by the owner and within a couple of days I had a "new" boat.
Next challenge, to bring her home....
I'm happy to share the entire story if any interest and also I looking forward to hear yours.
I don't know if it is worth it to open a class topic for Nova 28, possibly not. We'll see...
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Any progress on this deal? I've been in the same situation, in terms of buying a boat "remotely". I bought it from Dunedin and sailed up to Lyttelton. I'm not saying without excitement, but that was a priceless experience. So I'm just curious how others doing it.
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I found a picture which was taken on a windy day not long after I bought Waimanu. I have no wind instruments on board but I checked the record online and was 28-35knts.
The boat handled pretty easily and I had no trouble to maneuver myself. This is the cruising setup. Last weekend we had similar conditions and I had two crew on board. Same head sail and one reef only (two reef on the picture) and that was comfortable as well, but only because of the extra hands on deck to trim.