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3 hours ago, ex Elly said:
Orams has just spent $140 million, and is now set for the next 100 years, according to this video:
Orams is dreaming if they think they are going to be immune to reverse sensitivity in there with all the new high density housing going in. Give it 10-20 years and they'll all be getting shut down under onerous requirements being imposed on them.
Pier21 was just a soft target that the developers have already picked off.
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I'm not sure if my little Tracker is going to be able to lift a Toyota.... the car would weigh as much as the boat does!
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Sail Nelson does 5 day live-aboard skipper courses you could look into, but it sounds like you need to buy a smaller yacht and re-learn how to sail - maybe take the plunge and buy a trailer sailer or 7-10m keeler? (There's a few good trailers out there and you might pay more up front but save it in mooring costs and antifoul.)
In my own experience I've found that sailing solo is a big combination of experience, familiarity with the vessel, and having the correct setup for single handed sailing. That, and a calm resolution when things go horribly wrong!
It wasn't until recently I was crewing/teaching a mate on their boat that I realised just how convenient, enjoyable and safe it is to have all lines led back to the cockpit. I guess I'd always been spoiled with generous length sheets, good winches, familiarity with what sails work will in what wind, ideal traveler positions, etc etc. Even if you don't plan on sailing solo, it's well worth having the boat and rig set up for it.
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4 hours ago, Adrianp said:
So no decisions made but hopefully the AYBA have scared the board enough to trigger a proper round of consultation and the yard can be saved through that.
I dunno, but from the questions asked and the discussion on the actions it seemed the Chair had no interest in reviewing the decision and seems to think they shouldn't be responsible for "providing a haulout service". By the end of that it seemed they dropped the note to look into any legal exposure and nothing confirmed they would postpone closure from the current date.
Also very illuminating to see the two groups who want the hardstand gone, and it explains the loss/relocation of dinghy racks too. They just want their own dedicated space to run their organization and to hell with the consequences.
Very frustrating to have them spouting provable falsehoods and misrepresentations too. Some very careful choices in words and anecdotes from both of them. The reality is that the Landing is not a "commercial operator", it's a facility owned by council and the operations are contracted out. It returns revenue to council (despite the implications that it was freeloading), and if there are any environmental malmanagement issues then those are the responsibility of the bloody council to manage their facility!
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On 25/10/2022 at 12:06 PM, ex Elly said:
Cookes have 50% off Fineline ropes. So head out to East Tamaki, or shop online.
Don't head out there - the sale is online orders only.
Just wasted 2.5 hours and far more petrol than I'd like to admit finding that one out.
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50 minutes ago, ex Elly said:
For example a bowline in polyester could reduce the rope strength by 30%, but in dyneema may reduce strength by 50%.
But given the Dyneema is stronger to begin with, then end strength is about the same isn't it?
My halyards are sized for comfort in the hand well above load, so is there much advantage to using Dyneema over polyester? Doesn't it have less stretch to it?
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14 hours ago, MartinRF said:
I use a bowline knot for my jib halyard since 2+ decades.
For spi I want something with a swivel so not knotted.
Good to know. On my foredeck I have the quick release pin thingys with swivel built into them... not having to to cut these off and take them to be spliced onto the new halyards is one of the attractions of knotting everything.
14 hours ago, eruptn said:I asked a rigger that just a couple of weeks an he said 'use knots'.
Well I won't argue with that!
12 hours ago, CarpeDiem said:We put a 2m sacrificial dyneema sleeve on our halyards when we find chafe, very easy to shorten and resplice.
I've found that once the dyneema tip is on, the chafing ceases to be a problem. Infact ironically I have never needed to resplice one...
well... my chafing issue on the spin halyard is also the "where did the masthead light go?" issue so maybe I need to think more about where the rigging lies first...
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14 hours ago, Island Time said:
Volts are not a good indication of state of charge, unless the battery has been at rest (no charge or discharge) for 10 hours. That is unrealistic.
I'd they're good enough provided you know what the number means for your battery and it's limitations.
With the way things are going, I'd assume everything to be bluetooth before much longer and just keep a cheap tablet onboard.
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Hi Crew, Looking to pick your collective brains a bit:
On my wee (25ft) Tracker 7.7 there is some damage on the cover of my main halyard, spin halyard is totally stuffed and the jib halyard and topping lift are at least 15 years old and looking sad. All are 8 or 10mm Dyneema and seeing as there's a sale on I'm planning to replace the lot.
All the damage and failures are from chafing or rubbing on the same spots over the years, so my thinking is if I used a knot instead of a splice, I could shorten the halyards and re-knot them every year or so to prevent damage on one spot ruining the whole length.
They are all currently spliced with a metal eye, which looks nice, but is it really necessary in my case? Looking online, for those with smaller boats like mine, a lot of people are using some version of a "halyard hitch" instead of mucking around splicing old ropes.
Does anyone know the ins and outs of this? I'm thinking of using the above knot, possibly with the metal eyes. Given the ropes are sized for comfort well above any actual load I don't believe this would be an issue, but hey maybe you guys have some ideas.
Cheers!
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14 hours ago, Romany said:
A momentary thread drift, but Western Springs Speedway, now Okahu Bay haulout.
There was also the mt wellington go kart track, in an industrial area with no complaints, which had multiple clubs using it. Panuku were hell bent on letting the neighbouring container yard park containers on it. 5 years later and we're still waiting for the new track we were promised over by the airport.
Panuku have also been on a mission slowly eroding all the marine industry at hobsonville and wynyard quarter, "activating" the "waterfront" at westhaven to the detriment of marina users, and seem to be very committed to allowing luxury apartments to be built on the boat ramp and marina car park at Bayswater. Pier21 was sold to a developer who immediately shut down the yard there, and it's only a matter of time before reverse sensitivity and rapidly deteriorating vehicle access force the rest of the big operators there to close via nimbys, impossible resource consent conditions and re-zoning.
Meanwhile, in between planning meetings for apartments on reclaimed land (on which a developer will make millions while the ratepayer and marina trusts are shortchanged), the crosshairs are squarely set on little shoal bay, under the guise of climate change adaptation.... apparently we can build apartments at sea level, but need to rethink hardstands and boat facilities in the face of sea level rise....
I'm pretty frustrated with this, as you might be able to tell.
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3 hours ago, Psyche said:
To be fair to the residents of Paritai Dr. no one wants a boatyard next door, and if the opportunity came up to get rid of one I'll bet 99% of non-boaties would vote gone
Well that's why we are meant to have a robust process to prevent someone from moving in next to a regional asset and ruining it for everyone else....
At the rate Auckland is going all we're going to have left is walking around your local neighborhood and wondering where all the young and capable people went.
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3pm.... well I'll try to be there.
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300+ million dollars, 78 homes.... 4 million per home AND they get a shiny new marina office.... you can bet this is going ahead in one way or another.
Here's a link to the latest article without the paywall and other clutter
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Weiti is looking pretty good just for the sake of proper parking, jetty, haulout and dingy lockers....
I had a chat with Westhaven and they're not taking new rentals to fill the largely empty poles as they'll be reconsolidating anyone left into the one row eventually, which I presume is after replacing the rotten/broken poles and tidying the place up a bit. However, this doesn't bode well for me if I have the boat transported out to my place for some refit and repair work next year and want to come back after 6 months.... trailer sailers are sounding like a pretty good idea these days!
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5 hours ago, waikiore said:
Hobson Bay ,Glendowie etc are all good mooring areas but the council are actively removing Dinghy storage facilities, if you are a Westy what about Herald Island? Or alternatively pay to join the waiting list at Milford creek -there are a few Trackers in there.
What on earth is council doing removing dingy racks? City of Sails no longer it would seem.
Milford seems a bit limiting with the tides, and in any case I imagine it's not going to be as cheap as Weiti, but I hear the old floating piers from Westhaven are going to be sent up there to be reused so that might be part of a nice do-up of the place for those that are there.
Hobsonville or Herald island might be an option as it only adds an hour by sea to get out to the inner gulf... of course that makes a 4 hour return trip to Motuihe into a 6 hour trip but at least it's on the water. Does anyone here know what the dinghy/parking/jetty situation is like out there?
2 hours ago, aardvarkash10 said:Long shot, but we are pretty happy at Brooklands Boating Club on the Wairoa River, Clevedon. Yes, a bit of a drive for a westie, but only two hours to the bottom end of Waiheke under pretty much any conditions. And in a Tracker, the river depth at the mouth will not limit you a lot. Poles, around $300 a month, very sheltered, jetty with drinking and washdown water, secured gate entry and parking. No clubrooms or other facilities.
$300 a month is a bit cheaper than what I'm paying now, but definitely a big drive to get out there. Thanks for that info though they actually sound interested in supporting their customers.
Westhaven poles went from 200 in 2013 to 380 now, probably 400+ next June. There's no maintenance being done, a snapped off pole that is only visible near low tide and they are using the area as a graveyard for old piers.
In that time, a small berth went from 390 to 670 per month. So after removing the swing moorings for superyachts and massive cats, they've increased poles 90% and small berths 70%, then claimed that there's falling demand..... meanwhile a 14M berth has only gone up 38% in that same time. They then have the audacity to tell us our rates are going up to fund the redevelopment project (that is removing small berths and all the poles) and maintenance (that isn't being done).
Ugh... I'm just sick of council and council controlled organizations constantly screwing over regular Aucklanders. The prospect of paying more for a pole than what a berth cost just 10 years ago has really got to me.
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14 hours ago, Black Panther said:
If anyone is interested one of our club members is in the middle of the process h3re at WBC
Seeing as I'm looking at both my antifouling and berthage options right now, I'm very interested!
I'll try figure out the messaging system...
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20 minutes ago, Kevin McCready said:
Okahu Bay is fine. But make sure your boat has big cleats so it doesn't get parted from the mooring in storms.
The bow of my tracker as a very well set bollard(?) that got towed by the coastguard at about 12 kts and it didn't part ways so I reckon I'd be ok with that. Is there a lot of wave action with a north/north-easterly?
What is the story with getting out to the boat? Is there a dinghy rack or anything like that?
20 minutes ago, Black Panther said:Gett8ng on the list is easy. Times are random. Seems there has been a lot of turnover recently.
Ohhhh very interesting. I'd always written the idea off because of that. Thanks.
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15 minutes ago, Black Panther said:
Check out Weiti. Not a terrible drive and close to all the excellent destinations once you get here.
It's a bit of a drive (for me) to get up there, but if I lived closer I would certainly be onto that one. Do you know how long the waitlist is? (I heard it was a bit tricky to get on that list, too)
Definitely would be a nice way to get to Kawau though.
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Hi Crew - New member here but have been sailing a little Tracker 7.7 since 2013. I've been on the Westhaven poles ever since buying her, but haven't been out once since the whole covid thing happened, and now with life getting back on track I've finally had to bite the bullet and reassess the cost of this! Rental rates have almost doubled since starting there while the service/value has been reduced and all maintenance long since halted (and there are abundantly clear signs that we're going to be kicked out before too much longer, however, that's a rant on it's own for another time....)
SO, having never had to look at moorings beyond the boats occasionally washing up against the westhaven sea wall, what are good spots to look for available moorings in the Waitemata? I'm based out in West Auckland for now, so trying to balance the nightmare of driving to Bucklands beach against time spent motoring against tide and wind to moorings up near Hobsonville.
I'm thinking Little Shoal Bay looks neat, as does Okahu but I'm not sure if these are too exposed? How does dinghy/tender storage work in these places?
Is building a trailer and parking it with the rigging up at a boat ramp a possible option?
Any thoughts, advice or sage wisdom out there?
Thanks
(7.7m LOA, 1.4m draft, about 2000kg unloaded)
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How often does CC need blasting and/or sanding, at least how often are you guys doing so? I imagine a neglected boat is still going to get some barnacles (or worse) growing that could take a chip of the paint off with them?
I just seem to see some mixed reviews, and I wonder if it's as much about the prep work vs the tolerance for a missed season or what defines "low maintenance".
Bayswater Marina housing plans released
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From what I've read, the council has actually refused to make a marine plan in light of these issues rearing up (before covid).....
But, of course, Panuku does seem very determined for some select developments to go ahead..... https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/116638559/why-is-auckland-council-so-eager-to-sell-prime-waterfront-real-estate-to-a-millionaire-developer