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This would be a low cost (to maintain) multihull. The fact you can beach her and she has outboards will save significantly on haulouts. Less than 20 years old (albeit old design but pretty bullet proof). You will enjoy the additional room for live aboard and a stable platform, while being able to work in an airy / light saloon.
Not sure what the live aboard restrictions are on a mooring, but this one will dry out twice a day pretty much allowing you to walk on/off if you needed.
Good luck with your adventures!
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We had MEC apply coppercoat in Auckland in 2012. I contracted them to do the whole lot (remove old antifoul, prep and apply new coppercoat) so that there was one bum to kick. They did a great job and it is still going strong.
Mitch has always been reasonable to deal with - what is his current position? Surely he will come to the party and rectify. That application looks like a real mess. NZ marine industry is too small to get a bad reputation.
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OK. Still keen to see any pics you can post or send when convenient.
I like the look of these - relatively simple and clean - but not sure if they would lift the dinghy high enough? I want to raise it high enough that I can still use the transom steps by walking under the dinghy - maybe these are too low?
I've sent you a PM with photos.
I can't picture the transom of your boat so can't comment, but they can be raised by tweaking the base you will need to make up.
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We imported a set of these. Not cheap but great looking davits. Had to get some bases made up for them to sit on.
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We are back in NZ for a few weeks over Xmas and New Year.
Missing our annual trip out to the Mercs, so have hired a place up at Matarangi (Coromandel) for 9 days. Am looking for a small fun sailing toy we can use with the kids. Think Hobie / Weta etc that we can tow up with us.
Anyone have one (or have any ideas) of one we can use in return for payment.
Open to suggestions......
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Waeco make a wet and dry with a reasonable size holding tank. We used to have one and vacuumed the boat and cleaned out the bilge just fine.
They were about $150 from memory
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We put a Rainman desal on our boat. Really simple set up and great service. Came in much cheaper than other watermakers, with many parts that are universal rather than OEM only.
Removable from the boat if you want to use it elsewhere or when we are racing.
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We are looking to get the cabin top of our cat wrapped. The boat builder we have used to repaint the topsides has suggested we give the idea a miss as his experience is that the wrap fairly quickly deteriorates and cracks (in the Queensland sun). I appreciate there are different quality wraps on the market.
It would work for us as to repaint the cabin top (paint in good condition but want to do something before I don't have any options left other than to repaint) as to repaint involves a fairly significant tenting or removal of the rig / shed hire. Also will allow us to go for a slightly different graphic look for the boat.
Thoughts on wrapping generally / quality of wrapping products welcome.
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Fruition and her crew made it to Brisbane.
Departed Auckland Friday evening 15 April for the BOI for a final shakedown. Sailed through the night and arrived into BOI at lunchtime Saturday for final checks and fresh bread / ice / showers before clearing customs at Opua at 12.30pm on Sunday 17 April.
We had a pretty lazy sail up the NZ coast in a 10-15 knot NE, with the only drama being a bang followed by the mainsail coming sliding down the track. Fearing the worst (a broken halyard) we diverted to Whangaroa (we were only about 3nm from the entrance) to effect repairs. Called Customs who were very appreciative that we had taken had let them know we were stopping. In the end it was a shackle pin that had come loose, so a quick trip up the mast and all was sorted.
We cleared Cape Reinga about 4am (after motor sailing for a few hours which then filled into a nice Southerly) and went past the Three Kings about 9am. We slowed down for a fish - best fishing ever. 105cm Kingfish, big eye tuna and XOS snapper on board in quick succession and we were off with fresh fish to last us a few days.
The predicted SE kicked in and we had 80 hours flying the gennaker, with one gybe. New top speed of 20.3 knots, a 24 hour run of 230nm, regular bursts into the high teens. Weather gods were very kind.
A few technical hitches (such as finding hydraulic fluid in the bilge from the new auto helm install and a line wrapped around the port prop) kept us on our toes.
The forecast by PredictWind (Using the Offshore app / IridiumGo setup) was spot on. Great service by them all round. We were able to keep in contract with the shore crew by text and the tracker let those following us keep an eye on progress.
With 200nm to go to Cape Moreton (Brisbane) the forecast was for the SE / E winds we had for 5+ days to die for 12 hours and to then fill in with a 25 knot Southerly. This was spot on, except the 25 knot Southerly became 35 knots gusting 45 (one gust of 50 knots), which saw us down to our deep (third) reef in the main and most of the headsail rolled away - still seeing regular squirts into the high teens as we surfed down the waves. We ran into the East Coast current (running North to South) about 100nm off Cape Moreton which, against the Southerly which has now been blowing for 12 hours saw the sea state start to get quite big 4m+. By midnight we were about 40nm off Cape Moreton. The sea state was getting worse (6m with green tops). We slide sideways down one wave at an angle of heel that was 'uncomfortable' on a catamaran, and took one over the back that must have been 6m+ with the top 2m breaking into the cockpit and dinghy. A minor bit of damage and a few shaken nerves (now good stories) and we were around Cape Moreton and into the relative shelter of Moreton Bay at about 4am. A long slog to windward and we cleared into Customs at 11am.
Great adventure, great crew and great boat.
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Thanks guys. Getting the thing shipped back to NZ is going to be a little more expensive that I had hoped! Tim I will give you shout.
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We put Coppercoat onto our Cat during July 2012. The coating is still going strong.
For racing we would want to give it a wipe every 2/4 weeks. However for cruising we can get away with a wipe every 2/3 months. We left it nearly 6 months at one point and it took a bit of effort to wipe off, but according to the diver that did it at the time it was much easier that he thought it was going to be.
So we are at least one full antifoul ahead now, so are now past the break even point.
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Either buy or rent. It will end up in Brisbane so if I rent I will get it sent back by ship.
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Wanted - 6 to 8 man life raft.
Either ready for cat 1 or due to be serviced to get cat 1
Ideally in a valise (soft case)
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Time has come to move Fruition over the ditch from Auckland to Brisbane.
We are planning (weather window dependent) to leave mid April.
So a few questions:
- Any idea if you can clear out of BOI (or Auckland) on a weekend or after hours, and of so whether it costs a fortune?
- Anyone else planning on heading in that direction at that time?
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We want to support the club so hopefully they will be able to confirm when opening times and whether they will have hot food when open.
We were there on Monday late afternoon and they were closed - they had a big weekend by all accounts and it is now manned by volunteers, so no dramas with that. However it will be important I think to have some regular opening hours as if there is doubt whether it is open, people may not make the effort to head in to support.
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Well done on your (almost) first purchase.
Like all boat things there are pros and cons.
Things to consider:
- durability (pulling it up on the sand vs up a ramp with oysters or up on the rocks) impacts whether GRP, ply, soft bottom vs hardbottom inflatable, PVC vs hyperlon
- Rowing ability (the flat bottom inflatables generally row poorly)
- Towing ability
- Storage on board / in the car / in the garage at home
- How dry it is
- How stable it is
- How many crew you normally have
- Will in mark your yacht (or worse your neighbours) if left bumping along side
I like the inflatable option as size for size they do most of the above except row well (better if you get one with an inflatable keel) and they are the most popular choice for good reason.
Can't go too far past a good Southern Pacific or Aquapro (not the chinese ones though). I'd look for a 2-3 year old one on TM.
One trick on a smaller keeler if you dont want the boat on the foredeck or to tow it is to strap a piece of timber or aluminium (oars, bamboo poles, aluminium / stainless tube) to the horizontal bars on your pushpit and have them cantilever aft out the back of the boat say 1m. You can then lift a light soft bottom inflatable up and sit and strap it on the poles) - cheap removable davits!
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The power of Crew.OrgThanks Rental - will do
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Thanks heaps for the offer. Brilliant 8 boys and 2 hookers. Two many lines, but I'm sure as hell not going down last!
Will drop past your place of Marine Bondage next week as I have a few rope issues that need sorting.
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I am planning a boys trip away late Jan / early Feb next year for a couple of weeks and am in need of a Dive compressor.
Any ideas where I can get one. Happy to hire, borrow, steal, trade for rum or crayfish?
Alternatively one of those Hookah type systems would be great.....
Thanks
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riverjim, you do raise a good issue, however the feedback from most seems to be:
- don't buy a shitter, you get what you pay for. So to say you don't care what has been spent on the boat recently doesn't add up. If the vendor didn't spend it the new owner will. Likely the vendor will only get say 30-50c in the $ on the improvements. So you will nearly always be better off spending a few more $$ to buy better.
- you cant really bitch about prices generally. They are what they are ignoring the outlying dreamers. Its like saying prices of 10 year old fords need to drop because you don't want to pay that price - they wont unless the demand drops or there is excess supply. Market is what it is and only economic forces and impacting on supply and demand will change that.
- accepting the market is where it is and just getting on with it will get you out sailing- otherwise you just become another dreaming landlubber watching life go by.
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As I said, guys that have their boat on the market for years clearly don't want to meet the market. There always will be dreamers (both sellers and buyers). And yes it is a buyers market. Some prices are ridiculous and they wont sell.
My point was that quality boats that are priced appropriately will sell. I took it you were trying to say the second hand market is overpriced. If that were the case none would sell. The market point is where it is (where ever THAT maybe) and complaining generally that the whole market needs to move down is a little fruitless.
A new (zealand) copper antifoul system...
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For what its worth we applied CC in NZ through MEC on our sailing cat in 2012 and it worked well for about 7 years. Had one decent sand back in 2017. It was end of life by early 2020 and for about 12 months it required very regular scrubbing to keep clean-ish. We replaced with CC here in Oz in 2021 and seems to be doing well 18 months later. For us it has paid dividends. But it MUST be applied properly.